Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:22 Okay, so welcome to the Frame Center podcast today. I'm excited. We got Amber Waterhouse in. We're doing a little, uh, morning podcast today because Amber's got the store over in Hingham Waterhouse. Nice. Antique store. It was by back, was it, was it November? Me and took the field trip over
Speaker 2 00:00:41 There. Yeah. Probably in the fall.
Speaker 1 00:00:41 Yeah. So she's got that. Amber's also a, a pretty well known painter over in Hingham. Right. <laugh>. I think you have some, you have some image. You
Speaker 2 00:00:49 I have a store, so they have to know me. <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:00:51 Yep. I think you have some, I think you have some pretty recognizable images. I think we got one out front. Yeah. Know, I feel like we, I see that quite a bit. I remember the Rainbow Fleet, like in London. Yes. Also another
Speaker 2 00:01:02 Popular piece. Yes. You framed a few of those <laugh>. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:01:04 One of my favorites as I was looking through your gallery the other day on there, just to see it was one of the ones I wrote down is ones I like the series of Rainbow
Speaker 2 00:01:13 Fleets. I've probably painted that scene, not in exactly the same, certainly. But, you know, variations like of that scene, probably 50 plus times.
Speaker 3 00:01:21 You have a few of 'em on there. But
Speaker 2 00:01:22 They look great. It's, it's a nice, uh, my friend that's in a band calls it my, um, sweet Home Alabama. Like, you don't wanna play it, but everyone wants to hear it sort of thing. <laugh>, I mean, I do like painting it. It's a great scene. But yeah, it's my sweet home, Alabama. Nice.
Speaker 1 00:01:37 Well, you everyone's gotta have that. I mean Yeah. You're better off having that than not, right? Yes. Yes. You can always fall back to it. Absolutely. Me and Amber sat on the board together at North River. I'm trying to remember how long ago that was. I feel like, I feel like my,
Speaker 2 00:01:50 It was like, I think at least 10 years ago. 10 years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:01:53 Yeah. Did we come on the board the same time there?
Speaker 2 00:01:55 No, you were on before. Maybe. I was on, I was not on very long. No, I was on very long. I,
Speaker 1 00:01:59 Maybe we exited it at the same time. Maybe.
Speaker 2 00:02:01 I think it was a bit of exiting <laugh> that happened simultaneously. So, um,
Speaker 1 00:02:05 Yeah, I think, I think that maybe you, did you exit when you opened the store?
Speaker 2 00:02:08 It came about right about the same time, because a little bit before I stayed on the arts committee because I, I loved doing that and that was fun. And I stayed involved in the November sale, cuz I loved doing that. But I went off the, I was probably on the board two years. Yeah. Not very long. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. And I moved to hang, I used to live across the street from it and then I moved to Hingham and nothing's that far away cuz it really isn't. But Yeah. But yeah, it was a whole perfect storm of things that Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:02:33 The responsibility of a storefront too. It kinda
Speaker 2 00:02:36 <laugh>. Yes. Yeah. It was taking up my, yeah. More of my time than I had before. Certainly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:02:41 I had a good run there too. And, you know, say visiting Po Kids and then it was just, and then store and then
Speaker 2 00:02:46 Yeah. But you're still so generous too and so supportive of all the programming and things they do from out of the Box to no student shows to like all the shows that they have. Yeah. This is just such a go-to for all the artists I know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:02 Well, I mean, that's
Speaker 2 00:03:03 Where we do their framing here. <laugh> <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:03:04 Well, you know, I think that we wanna reach, you know, artists, we wanna reach everybody. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I think that even with this, with the podcast too, it's, it's nice, A good way to, nice outlet to get things out to people, to make them more familiar with artists and like, see some of the qualities of artists behind the painting. So, you know, somebody's seen that piece of yours and you know, then they hear the voice and the personality behind it. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a selling point, you know, and at your place at Waterhouse, you guys sell some art, right? And it's, is it mainly your stuff or is it, there's a couple. I know there's a couple, uh, like Margaret and, uh,
Speaker 2 00:03:40 Yeah, so I started the store kind of unintentionally. I was looking for like my next career and I wanted to do something with, I'd been painting for quite a while at that point, and I was selling my work and I knew, you know, I kind of had like some Hingham in the South Shore community as an engaged community and buying art. And I knew kind of the price point and the scenes and all that. And this antique store was, my friend told me about this antique store that I had recently discovered in Hingham Square and that this woman was going to close and sell her business. So I talked to her about it and I thought, okay, this is kind of like, I could use this as a venue to sell my work, but I'm not prolific enough. And so I could have the people that I, who I paint with, whose work I love, and I know their work and their history and their, it's easy for me to sell mm-hmm. <affirmative>.
Speaker 2 00:04:30 Yeah. And then the antiques come in because I just didn't wanna have a gallery. I'm not a gallery owner. I don't like calling it a gallery. I don't, I'm not like offended if you call it, but I just didn't want that sort of stigma. Traditional sometimes can be stuffy atmosphere or intimidating, rather intimidating atmosphere. You go in mm-hmm. <affirmative> and you're surrounded by all these paintings with price tags and the gallery owner. And depending on who's who, the gallery owners, you could have a great time. But I just didn't want to be intimidating. I think people that buy art and my store, for a lot of 'em, it's their first painting that their first piece of real artwork that they're buying. And the retails are very inclusive, true to a lot of people. You know, they're anywhere from $300 or less to $2,000. Yeah. So they're in that range where most people can, can afford a piece of real art. So the antiques sort of make the environment a little more interesting. Yeah. And then I add decor in there too. So, I mean, you could be coming in like looking for a little table that you need for a lamp on it and you go out with a painting or you go in looking for a painting and you're like, you know, you go out with
Speaker 1 00:05:33 10. Yeah, no, a lot, a lot of
Speaker 2 00:05:35 Interesting stuff in there. 10, 10 plates or something. I don't know. Yeah. So, yeah, I like it because it's, it's a great place to discover things. Yeah. And that's kind of the mantra of
Speaker 1 00:05:45 Yeah, that whole area I think is really nice. I imagine you probably have a lot of people that kind of walk in, walk out just as they're like strolling through a lot
Speaker 2 00:05:54 Of this stuff. Absolutely. It's an awesome location. I think Hingham Square, not comparing it to any other town, because I, I can't, cuz I've never had a shop in any other town, but <laugh>, it's really, I've been there almost nine years and it's unbelievable what's happened. I think there's so much to do there now. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I mean, there were always clothing stores and there were always home furnishing stores, but there's a quite a few home furnishing stores now, so it's really, and quite a few clothing stores now, so it makes sense to shop there. It's like a destination you can show Sure. Five different, six different clothing stores you can go into as many home furnishing stores. And I sell a lot to the trade too, to design trade. And so it makes sense for them to bring a client. Yeah. Because there's a lot of things they can look at. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Where
Speaker 1 00:06:36 They want model their
Speaker 2 00:06:37 Yeah. So if they don't find it at one store, they can find it somewhere else. Yeah. So, and then with art, you know, it's important to see it in person before you make the decision. That sort of thing. I do a lot of that at the store where people, you know, they're, they're trying to decide between a painting or they just don't know if it's gonna fit in their space or look good in their space or whatever. But I always let them take it home and try it because everything looks different in your own environment.
Speaker 1 00:07:01 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. AB absolutely. <laugh>. Yeah. And the other artists that you show down there, is
Speaker 2 00:07:06 It? So there's quite a few, and I've had, I've had more at some points and now I've, I've kind of had this, you have a core group? Solid core group that is the Right, A number of artists. So Margaret McCarthy, whom I've studied with for, I don't know, 15 years now. Yeah. I'm her student and it's primarily students of Margaret's, you know, that have come, we've really become good friends. So Christina Ackerson, who also lives in Hangout, so does Margaret Erin Danelle, who lives in Milton. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I have Joanne Chink who lives in Cohassett. I know she's a regular here. Oh yeah. All the time. <laugh> <laugh> and Jodi Regan, I have had over the years before she started doing the drawings mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I had some of her paintings and then I had some of her, now I have some of her drawings. Yep. I know you had her on it. Um, last that was really great. And her show is so great. That's at, um, yeah,
Speaker 1 00:07:54 I got two of her pieces at
Speaker 2 00:07:56 The show. I heard that on the podcast.
Speaker 1 00:07:58 I was super excited.
Speaker 2 00:07:59 Yeah. Yeah. Awesome show. And let's see. So, and then I have this guy, Chris Coin, who lives in Rockport, mass, but he grew up in Hingham. Mm. He's really good. Really good. He, and then a different style. So he's, I mean he's still a traditional and an impressionist, but more North Shore or Cape Bann versus like Cape Cod, you know, there's a different, we paint a little more high key. They paint a little more like mid key. So that's, there's a little variety there. I have Bonnie Hobbs, whom I was in Margaret's class too. I met her there and then I bought a bunch of things from her when she was selling a house. And I said, Hey, you wanna sell some art at my shop? And I've sold a lot of her art. And then Diane Scott, whose work I love, she used to show at the, I've met her in Margaret's class and I met her first at North River Arts cuz I bought one of her paintings from the festival show.
Speaker 2 00:08:51 That is still, I own a lot of artwork. Yeah. And it's still one of my most favorite paintings. So she's in New Hampshire, but, and then Rita Brace, who lives in Oklahoma now. Yes. But she'll send me, she'll send me, um, painting and then we mix, I joined forces with my friend Jen Schwartz, who has been a longtime antique Steeler. And she works in the shop and she sells an her antiques in the shop. But she has a fabulous eye and knowledge of art and we buy together a lot of vintage art too. Yep. So, yeah, it's just a little
Speaker 1 00:09:20 Like, that's fun too, right? Cause you can, you know,
Speaker 2 00:09:21 It's so fun, <laugh>, it's so much easier buying someone else's work than painting. Yeah. <laugh> your own
Speaker 1 00:09:27 <laugh>. That, that's, uh, I mean it's also seems like a fun thing to do too, like to buy, you know, you can go get out, look for stuff you like. Absolutely. You know, if you have a change of heart, you can move it or, you know, move some stuff around. Yes. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that, you know, that's that Absolutely. Like the fun thing to do. Go
Speaker 2 00:09:41 Looking Yeah. As your, as your taste change or develop or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It is nice to have an outlet to be able to sell some things. And, uh, or if you have to downsize, which I did recently, I had a little overflow, so some pieces ended up in the shop, but
Speaker 1 00:09:55 Yeah. So you have a and you have a lot of art yourself, so you I
Speaker 2 00:09:58 Do. Yeah. Yeah. I love buying art. Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:10:01 Same here.
Speaker 2 00:10:02 It's so fun.
Speaker 1 00:10:03 Yeah. And do you have just from all over? Or is like a certain style that
Speaker 2 00:10:09 You're Yeah, I mean, I would definitely paint traditionally and I, I definitely like more traditional styles, but not exclusively. I like people that buy art from me. They're, they need to have some connection with it. So that's kind of how I buy art. Whether the subject connects me, but usually it's the artist. Yep. Or combination of the both. Yeah. So I've been going up to Maine with a couple fellow artists and is
Speaker 1 00:10:33 It Monhegan or No,
Speaker 2 00:10:35 Not Monhegan. We go to, I know, I've never been to Monhegan. I'm like, I would, I
Speaker 1 00:10:39 Keep hearing about it, Jodi.
Speaker 2 00:10:40 Oh God. It's like, oh, Jodi's been going forever. But it's like, um, it's Art Mecca of Maine. Yes. You know, but we go in Arcadia too. But we go to Camden, mid coast, Maine. There's a ton of paint there. Yeah. I mean, the three of us that go, we all like painting water. So at the Harbors are different. And for years I would go to Gloucester for a week in the summer to take this guy's workshop. David Curtis mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And he grew up there and you know, he just knew all the spots. So, you know, it's just different for variety of like, landscape and, you know, they have different boats. They're, the waters a different color, you know? Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. But the, no, the art, I digress. So, um, the, the are <laugh>, there's a few people like in, in Maine that I'm like really grooving on that. I can't really afford their work anymore. But I have a couple of their paintings. David Graham Baker, I have one of his paintings and I have a couple of his drawings that you framed and I have another one now. I'm at the drawing phase. I can only afford those. But
Speaker 1 00:11:36 The drawings are so like, are great too. I think like Jodi's too, like I think that like, like those sketches you see things that are like studies. Surely you can add that framing element into it. Yes. And it, like, it really has like a, you know, a nice look to it, especially if you connect with it and Yeah. And sometimes can be more affordable, you know.
Speaker 2 00:11:54 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, and we have taken a couple classes with Colin Page who has a gallery in Camden mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And when we first started going up there, he didn't have his gallery yet, but it's so exciting to see and we love his work and his style. So he curates these shows and it's so fun to see these other contemporary artists that he, that he chooses. So I think, I hope in my little store that, you know, that similar experience can happen where someone comes in. And I love seeing it. It's absolutely the most favorite part of my job. When someone comes in and connects with a painting. You know, when you see one you like, you say, you said, you know, you're talked about your experience at Jodi's show a few weeks ago. And just like, you might come in wanting like, oh, I want a, you know, I want a big painting to go over my fireplace. But then you end up with this little tiny Yeah. Jewel of a painting or something that, that you connected with. So
Speaker 1 00:12:44 Yeah, that's, yeah, definitely. When I was at Jodi's thing I was like, I'm gonna, I'm getting the city and there wasn't one that struck me. And I'm sure I'll end up with one of her city skate drawings
Speaker 2 00:12:53 Some point. Yes. She's done a few <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:12:55 Yeah. You know, the street going, you know, like nearing what, like six years? Probably. Probably up to like 2000. Yeah. I'm sure that there's probably one out there that I'll end up with. But you know, some, you know, north River, you know, that scene for show I hung, it was like a perfect fit for me. And I was like, yeah, how can I, uh, not buy this? But yeah, I mean, people just connect with pieces and it's, it's, it is fun to see and it's fun to get people involved in buying art, you know,
Speaker 2 00:13:21 And it's fun to have that. Having real original art in your home feels different. Yeah. It just does, it brings a different vibe to your room or home or whatever. It's a, you know, it's can be a reflection of you or something or somewhere you've been or mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's handmade by a human, so it, um, it has that quality to it too.
Speaker 1 00:13:42 And there's not always, like, there's not another one out there. Right. I mean, there's sometimes there's something similar, like if there's some, you
Speaker 2 00:13:48 Know, there are more of these, um, red dinghies out there though. <laugh>, that's a Chi Clay print, which I own a couple. She clay prints of artists that I can't afford. Yeah. But I love their work. Yeah. So, you know, and there aren't a million, I wish there were a million of sunken chip out there, but <laugh> <laugh> there aren't. So, uh, photographs are prints. You can make multiples of photographs. But having like a Mike Sleeper at your home, like it has that Yeah. It's his skill of, of rendering something so beautifully. I mean, it's photographs. What's that? I do, I do. It took me like years to pick one because I wanted a million and they're, and they're big. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:14:25 He doesn't do tiny.
Speaker 2 00:14:26 Yeah. Yeah. So I bought one that is of, it has a name, but it's at the end of Martin's Lane, right at, it's a little cove at the end of Martin's Lane in Hingham that Right. Bef as you enter World's End. Yeah. And there's a little dinghy that's parked there all the time. And so it's a picture, it's a foggy morning with a reflection of the land of the Martin's Lane side of the land into that little cove. Ooh. And there's a little Mike likes to point out there's a little tiny fox. Yeah. And I remember that fox cuz what I would paint in, um, world's n I dunno if he's still there, but I, I'd paint World's N which is very, I loved, I could go there on my own because it's safe and you know, and there's unlimited amount of things to paint there. And, um, the fox was like hanging around. It was kind of scary. Yeah. I had like a little bag of nuts with me and I'm like, oh my God. What, like <laugh>, what's he gonna do? Yeah. I mean, I'm bigger than he is, but his teeth are sharper and he can certainly run faster than I can <laugh>. I dunno. But he came kinda close and then, and then there were a lot of sightings of this box. I don't know if he's still there, but it's in the photograph.
Speaker 1 00:15:26 You recognized that encounter. Yes. That's famous
Speaker 2 00:15:31 Fox. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:15:32 Yeah. Mike stuff's great. I got, I have two of his, I have his, the canoe and I have, I love the canoe. I have the boat from out in Nantucket. I forget the name of the print, but it's like Fred Rogers. Oh, that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which hung up here for a long time. But I, yeah. Everyone with the intention of bringing it home. Yeah. Yeah. His stuff's great. Some of his stuff I've, I feel like I've gotten tired of just cause I've framed him so many times. Yeah. And I'm like, all right, well, you know, these ones are a little Yeah. The canoe is getting there. Only
Speaker 2 00:15:59 Framed like a hundred times.
Speaker 1 00:16:01 <laugh>, it works per, my wife loves it and it works perfect in my house where we have
Speaker 2 00:16:05 It. It's pretty great.
Speaker 1 00:16:05 Yeah. Yeah. His stuff is great.
Speaker 2 00:16:07 A lot of my artwork is from local people that Yep. Have paint that paint out of north over arts or South Shore Arts Center, or I've bought at South Street Gallery, which is now closed. There's a really great amount of talented Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:16:20 We're pretty
Speaker 2 00:16:20 Well saturated in, in this area working. Yeah. Artists on the South Shore
Speaker 1 00:16:23 In various types too. South Shore, they did a lot of like the older pieces too, didn't they? Was that one of their, their kind of niches over there?
Speaker 2 00:16:31 South Arts?
Speaker 1 00:16:32 No, south no South Street Gallery before they closed. Oh. Did they have like old, like
Speaker 2 00:16:36 He was a collect, Jack Hobbs was a, a collector. A painter. Yeah. And a collector as well. And so he would have artists like Charles Mali, who has since passed away, but yeah, he had Mali there when, and his wife Dale Radcliffe and yeah. He would get people from all over and Kate was good at putting those things together. Yeah. Really good at putting those things together. So, which was, it was a, it was a little jewel, you know. Yeah. You could just go over there and see some really great stuff in your neighborhood. Yeah. You know, that it included local art, but always of a really nice high caliber. Yeah, certainly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:17:09 Yeah. I got one painting from them that me and my wife had been in there and looking at it and I was drawn to, I'm from, can't remember the artist, but it had gone back and picked it up for me. Yes. Cuz she knew I liked it.
Speaker 2 00:17:19 Yeah. Oh yeah. That's nice. It's, that is fun too. I lot have couples come in and buy work together. That's really, it's, I have a great customer that buys paintings whenever a big event happens in her life mm-hmm. <affirmative> and has nothing to do with the event, but it sort of commemorates that event when she looks at the painting, she gets to enjoy the painting and she also, you know, reminds her of the wedding or,
Speaker 1 00:17:40 Yeah. No, that's a, that's a cool, cool tactic. Yeah. I mean, I feel like a lot of people buy art when they're on vacation. Yes. Take trips. I think Jodi touched on that. Yes. One, I think people are in vacation mode, right? Yes. So they're
Speaker 2 00:17:51 Spending a lot, they're spending anyway. They're spending
Speaker 1 00:17:53 A little bit more freely.
Speaker 2 00:17:54 And you wanna take a little piece of that trip home with you and Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:17:58 Um, yeah. Remember the spot, you remember the trip. That's fun. I think, you know, we're branching into bringing some artwork upstairs. Dean's been doing a great job. And that's fun too, to give people an opportunity to show work up there too. Yes. And kind of have a little bit of an influence of
Speaker 2 00:18:14 Yeah. It's a natural that that space is so attractive up here. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:18:18 It's come together.
Speaker 3 00:18:19 Yeah. Separating the two out for dedicated retail to dedicated gallery has made a big difference from how everything is present.
Speaker 2 00:18:25 That was always my original concept from my store like 30 years ago. Yeah. It's like an upstairs downstairs thing. Like I would have like the gallery on the top floor and then like retail and more affordable things on the Yeah. On the first floor. But now it's jammed into a little, all of it into a little space.
Speaker 1 00:18:40 <laugh> you probably use more space there. Right.
Speaker 2 00:18:42 Years of, of living a Beacon hill. I know. I have like 500 square feet. I am so good at packing, like, so much stuff in there.
Speaker 1 00:18:50 Do you store a lot of stuff at home too? Or?
Speaker 2 00:18:52 No? I, well now I really can't. No. I really try to
Speaker 1 00:18:56 Separate it.
Speaker 2 00:18:56 <laugh>. Yeah. I could really get, I mean, I've had like storage units over the years and it's just an expense I really don't wanna have. It is expensive. Yeah. And I try to turn it in real time, so the, my prices are really good. Yeah. So antiques are very affordable. They're a great way to add history and personality mm-hmm. <affirmative> and warmth to your room. And they go great with artwork. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:19:21 Yeah. I think that just being an over in your space, like, I feel like the, the group of artists you have, like, I think that the work lends itself to the antiques and it all seems to Yeah. There's a lot of stuff there, but it all kind of, you know, jives together Now the antiques when you, you just always had a thing for antiques or,
Speaker 2 00:19:39 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:19:39 You said your, I know your mother's been
Speaker 2 00:19:41 Yeah, my mom was an antique stiller for a while, but like, I am like on the decor side of antiques. Yeah. I mean, I studied history in, in art history and school, so I mean, I've always been interested in history, but I kind of grew up with them, so I, I like the different styles and different periods and, um,
Speaker 1 00:19:57 You're blending the styles too, like even having, like, I love the mix, like a small piece, like an antique, like put it into like an AO contemporary room.
Speaker 2 00:20:04 Absolutely. Like, there's nothing I was, I think there's nothing like more exciting than that. Like Yeah. Renaissance revival piece. It's all car beautifully carved or whatever. Oh yeah. With a stark white piece of furniture. Looks, looks great. Yeah. And an oriental carpet. Oriental, I saw a lot of rugs. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:20:19 Your wait long enough, everything turns back over. That's right.
Speaker 2 00:20:22 Too. Right.
Speaker 1 00:20:22 That's right. So it's
Speaker 2 00:20:24 Cycle spec.
Speaker 1 00:20:25 They, they all like become, it comes back Absolutely. The fashion. Right. The
Speaker 3 00:20:29 Seventies or like those colors, pellets and all those like totally back cells are back in again. So it's very, very, very funny. A lot of avocado greens and oranges
Speaker 2 00:20:38 And Yeah. Yep. The millennials love the seventies color, which is so funny. Being a kid in the seventies. I don't really love those colors. I don't like Yeah. That grew up with an orange or dark orange carpet. I will like always have an aversion to that color. But
Speaker 3 00:20:51 I have an orange Neil Shag carpet
Speaker 2 00:20:52 In the house. Yeah. Dark
Speaker 3 00:20:54 Brown paneling walls and that like yellow potato chip chair. I remember that
Speaker 2 00:20:59 <laugh> growing
Speaker 1 00:21:00 Up as a chair. You don't wanna bring that back. I,
Speaker 2 00:21:01 The
Speaker 3 00:21:02 Chair was actually quite comfortable. I don't mind bring the chair in different
Speaker 2 00:21:05 Color. If you could get your hands on that chair. I know God
Speaker 1 00:21:07 Sell it for you.
Speaker 3 00:21:09 We haven't destroyed that as children. That wouldn't
Speaker 2 00:21:12 <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, things like Jen and I do, we sell at B Brimfield a couple times a year, which is just like, it's a, it's so fun. It's like a, a boondoggle business expense sort of thing. If I break even, I'm, I'm psyched. Yeah. Jen actually makes a little money, but if I break even I'm psyched. Yeah. So we sell one day and then we chop another day. Yeah. And it's just, people talk about it being so overwhelming. It's just so fun. You will see it's like two hours. It's a short drive. It's, and you will see everything under the sun there, ev it's all there. Like fine antiques too. Everything else. So people, watching's good. It's a great place to buy art. Yep. Really great place to buy art. I bought a lot of art at Brimfield
Speaker 1 00:21:53 In that. More of a reasonable price too.
Speaker 2 00:21:55 Yeah. I, I, the whole gamut. I picked up a Richard Schmid Okay. A couple years ago, which I was pretty happy about. And Oh God, like contemporary artist. I think I've, I bought a my graves one time to just fun pieces that, who cares who the artist is that you just like the piece and it has a style, you know, I love the like thirties, forties, fifties sort of style of painting and, and there's a lot of that there. And if it just resonates then, you know, throw it in a frame and you've got a beautiful painting for <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:22:27 That Yeah, that's fine. I gotta try to get your brimfield at some point. What now? Does that run also the summer? Or is it,
Speaker 2 00:22:33 So it's three times a year. Three times a, it's always the same times. It's May, July and September. And so Jen and I go there and we sell in May and September. July can be hot. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But it can be nice sometimes too, so
Speaker 1 00:22:46 Yeah. You never know. Yeah. So you pack up a bunch of the stuff from the store or
Speaker 2 00:22:50 Is it, yep. And usually different things. Like, that's where Jen's really into mid-century and she does more contemporary artwork. Yep. And she's really good with clothing. She buys a lot of clothing. I don't know, I don't know where she finds this stuff, but she's got all kinds of stuff. And I, and I have my, my usual, you know, porcelain and Asian stuff and you know, wicker rugs. I don't know, it's all out there. So you never know. <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:23:12 When you're antique, you kinda end up like focusing in on one.
Speaker 2 00:23:16 Well, you gravitate towards certain, certain, certain things or it's, I mean, some people gravitate towards a period. I like a lot of different periods. I like a certain look, I guess. I don't know. I like the mix too. So I, there's a lot of different, I like, Victorian is really out right now. I mean, <laugh> it is so, so if you like it, buy it now cuz they're like basically burning it because they can't even like, sell it at auction. But there's a lot of craftmanship at that time too. A lot of carving and turning and beautifully hand, all bench made pieces. So I, I do like a <laugh>, a good Victorian piece every once in a while. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, especially Bamboo. I'm a sucker for anything French I love. Like blue, the four 15th, 16th. I love that stuff. I don't know anything English. I am known to like English furniture. There's like a patina to it that's different than, I don't know. And Continental Furniture's much more affordable to buy right now, has been for years than Americans. So if you like that, that's a good thing to focus in on. But
Speaker 1 00:24:10 Do you have a lot of people come in trying to get an education on, on antiques
Speaker 2 00:24:14 Or? Yeah. I mean, a lot of people come in and know what they're looking for. Yeah. Know a lot about things. I learn a ton of things from customers. Customers. Yeah. Yeah. And I learn about art from customers too. I mean they're, I've had so many great conversations. It's kind of like what you've developed here. I kind of have going a little bit in my shop too, in that it's really of like a, it's a community. It's a place in the community to be with like-minded people or people that are interested in the same things. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> that you are. Yeah. And so fun to have those conversations about. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:24:42 I have people turn me on the stuff all the time here for like, like, oh yeah, if you like this, go to
Speaker 2 00:24:45 This. And yeah. Watch this watch.
Speaker 3 00:24:47 He was in this documentary about, I'm like, okay. I
Speaker 2 00:24:49 Write down. Yeah. It's so fun. It's so, it's, yeah. It's so fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:24:54 I feel like with the, you know, with the art is really easy too now, especially with like, algorithms, right? Like, so you start looking at somebody's stuff on Instagram and then you start, all of a sudden, all of a sudden you're with it. Like you're seeing very similar things, you know? That's a nice ad from technology. Yes. Do you use, now you use that like Instagram to
Speaker 2 00:25:13 I just use Instagram. I, I <laugh> I'm kind of, Instagram is like god's greatest gift of small businesses, I think. Yeah. Because it's right now it's free. Yeah. And because of the algorithms, I've found so many great supportive people mm-hmm. In the Instagram community. I find it to be a really positive community. Yeah. They're very supportive and you know, it's a place where you can go look at beautiful things. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So, and it's a great way for me to let people know. I call it like, just in, I, I always start with just in, you know, things that come in. Yeah. They know. They know. I have a great customer that lives in Melrose and she's been coming down for years and it was probably the first year I was open. She was like, I come all the way from Melrose to your shop. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:25:54 Do you think you could put some stuff on Instagram so I would know what you have, you know, before I come. And they're like, oh, you look at Instagram? And she's like, like all the day, all the time, all day long. And you're like, yeah, but you, she has a full, you know, had a, at the time, a very high powered job in publishing. I'm like, she's like, oh, when I'm at the bank, when I'm here, like, I'm always on Instagram. So yeah. It's, it's a great place to kinda show what you have. Yeah. And talk about a little bit in a short clip of Yeah. You know, kind of your personnel show your personality, show your style, what you're doing. Yes. Show
Speaker 3 00:26:25 New inventory. Do you wanna walkthrough of the play?
Speaker 2 00:26:27 I have done that. Have
Speaker 3 00:26:28 You done changed the layout or something?
Speaker 2 00:26:30 Yeah. Correct. Especially during co Co. Oh my God. Oh God. During the pandemic, it was a total lifesaver. Yeah. And I did do a lot of like, walk through the shop sort of thing and I obviously all of us couldn't have our shop open for a while. But yeah. I was there like you were. Yeah. And so you just kind of, I think the pandemic was helpful in that it's kind of brought an awareness back to shopping local and small. Yep, yep. You know, there's only so much fun you can have on Amazon. I mean, it's, it's definitely convenient, but having the experience and the connection with a human, having experiential time
Speaker 1 00:27:05 Of
Speaker 2 00:27:05 Having, yeah. Going in and looking at and touching objects and, and talking to a human is, is important. And if, and if they're not sup, you know, if we don't use them then they'll potentially go away.
Speaker 3 00:27:14 I've discussed this with a few people that work here. Like, like I'm very, like, I don't shop online. I li I'm one of those guys. I like to see something before I buy 'em. Yeah. I wanna hold it. I want to see how it size it, you know? Oh yeah. They say the dimension, eh, but it doesn't always,
Speaker 2 00:27:27 Oh, you can hold up a ruler, but then you get it and you're like, oh my gosh, this is so small. Exactly. This, it's way bigger than I thought. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:27:32 There's a lot of things to seeing something in person rather
Speaker 2 00:27:34 Than, I
Speaker 3 00:27:35 Agree. Same thing goes for art, you know, you can't just,
Speaker 1 00:27:38 Yeah. Art's tricky. I mean, and I always question that with like the online judging, like a of our, yeah. Um, I think with like photography it's that, you know, I mean, you're looking at that's a little bit easier. But still, even with photography too, when, when you're just looking at an image, you know, it's going into a show. Yeah. All of a sudden you have like, all right, well what if it was framed really poorly? Or like, it's not like a true representation, you know, same with like paintings, like even like your paintings behind, it's like sometimes I don't, I just don't think it, you know, I think you can get a good idea of what it looks like and you got like a starting point. Yes. Like you wanna like go in and look at it more. But I don't think you could get like a true No.
Speaker 2 00:28:16 For some of those it's back lit. Yeah. Like I, I've bought paintings at auction many times that I didn't see in person, you know, and uh, yeah, it was backlit. So the colors are, I mean, I don't even know how to like correct color on and mo I don't think most people do how to like correct color in their images to make it look like the authentic painting. And there is a dimension with artwork, even if you don't,
Speaker 3 00:28:39 If you have dimension
Speaker 2 00:28:40 Paint with a lot of paint, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 00:28:42 Even if it's not dimensionalized like, you know, three dimensionalized with layered paints or things like that. Yes, yes. You
Speaker 2 00:28:48 Lose. Absolutely. It goes very flat. It's very flat. So yeah. I mean, I think if you see the painting in person and then go bite on the internet, that's the way to go. But
Speaker 1 00:28:57 Yeah, I think it's a good place for inspiration. I would, I mean, I don't, there's anything wrong with actually you're looking for, you know, I wouldn't wanna discourage people from making a purchase online, but I think to me it would be a good starting point. And then again seeing it, holding it, you know? Yes. It
Speaker 3 00:29:13 Looks like somebody saying like, oh, I know what the model lease looks like and I'm actually seeing it in place, you
Speaker 2 00:29:17 Know? Yes. It's a little bit of a difference. Totally different experience for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:29:22 We got two of your paintings behind us too. What are we, are those scenes in, in, in Hingham
Speaker 2 00:29:28 Or is that No, no. <laugh>. Oh. So I've been, I love to paint water. Yeah. And I've just kind of, I've been interested in interiors lately. Yeah. And then we've been working on the, in Margarets class, but for the last like, probably three or four years starting with the pandemic. Yep. I was painting interiors, like a lot of people were. The one on the right is a hotel in Utica in New York. Okay. <laugh>. I spend some time in Utica these days cuz both of my daughters are at the same college. Ah. Near I stay in Utica and they go to Hamilton College. So I'm, I'm they're nearby. That is a restaurant in Maine. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I mean, that's kind of what I do for work too. Yeah. But I like, I like the peering in and I like to do a lot of compositions where you're outside peering inside sort of thing. I haven't like given up on water, but I, I, I haven't been painting too many harbor scenes lately. Lately. Yeah. But I love, I love landscape.
Speaker 1 00:30:17 We just had Laura Jennings in last week recording and you know, she has like this interior shots, which are great. I don't if you familiar with her work. No, I'm not different styles than your work. Yeah. But like, she has a very Yeah. Does a lot of interiors. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 00:30:31 <affirmative>, there's like a very like, kinda lived in like where like the, the covers are thrown on the head. I love that. And you, I love that the blankets tossed on the little window sill bench with the book half open, you know? Yeah. They
Speaker 2 00:30:43 Feel there's a nar there's a narrative Exactly to it too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:30:46 There's a story going on with it, you know,
Speaker 1 00:30:48 It's not just Yeah. When you go, when you go to listen to your episode, hers will be right in the same neighborhood. <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:30:54 I gotta check out her work. I'm embarrassed. I yeah. I look forward to that.
Speaker 3 00:30:58 Well that's what this whole thing is about. It's just helping everybody discover a whole bunch of new people. So
Speaker 1 00:31:02 Yeah. You forget too sometimes, like, I, I'm trying to think of what Laura's had some stuff in, in North River. She's had mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's mm-hmm. <affirmative> in, in numerous places. But, you know, I forget like I know her all like will
Speaker 2 00:31:13 You see, see all of it cuz it all comes in here. But
Speaker 1 00:31:15 Certain people, you know, I mean there's definitely like groups and, you know, not cliques where like, you know, like Jodi paints with that, like her group of the
Speaker 2 00:31:23 Yeah. Yeah. That she's been with a long, a long time. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1 00:31:25 We had Rita Berkowitz in and like, she has like a, you know, like there's a bunch of the pastel artists that work with like Donna, like people that took classes. You
Speaker 2 00:31:32 Have to
Speaker 1 00:31:33 Have your people, that person, you know. Which I think is amazing too cuz like having these groups of people that paint together and just like add, you know, just keeps the wheels turn in. Right. Like you get, you know, you have a group of artists that you work with and they're inspiring to you and mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:31:47 <affirmative>, you know, and supportive and Yeah. And you learn from them painting with
Speaker 1 00:31:50 Them. It's kinda like having someone that you go to the gym with or like having that community, it kind of inspires you to continue to do, you know. Absolutely. You know, everyone else is painting, oh, I, I gotta go get, I gotta crank something else out. <laugh>, you
Speaker 2 00:32:02 Know. Yes. Can absolutely motivate you.
Speaker 3 00:32:04 Well, I mean, that's a good segue cuz actually when I was on your site looking at, I, I saw you did a 30 day challenge where you were doing 30
Speaker 2 00:32:10 Paintings. Oh my God, that was so long ago. I have so much admiration. Your
Speaker 3 00:32:16 Last one was great. It's like, yeah, there's no way I'm doing 30 paintings in 30 <laugh> 30
Speaker 2 00:32:20 Days. Well I mean you have, I mean you have to be somewhat realistic cuz if you have other things going on that day. Yeah. I shouldn't have picked the compositions I picked, I should have done some things that were a little more, a little more <laugh>. Yeah. Like, cuz it is just the exercise of every single day. Yep. Which, you know, like Jodi, unbelievable. Lisa Daria. It was, it was a big
Speaker 1 00:32:42 Did they inspire you to try to
Speaker 2 00:32:43 Oh it was a big challenge. Anyone that you were, you know, I think like the platform that I have my website on Faso Fine Arts studio, it's online. They have a challenge all the time. It was a big thing. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like maybe 10 years ago or something. And it's, it's a really, it's a really good practice if you can do it. Which I <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:33:00 I did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But mine's a little easier. I do abstract pores, so all I had to do was figure out color composition, size palette, what I wanted to work with, make it all up and then do it. My hardest thing is I'm a perfectionist. I like things to be exactly the way I wanted. I see it in my head. If it's not crumple up, start it all over again. Right. I had to get away from that. So I went, that's why I went to abstracts as used to do landscape watercolors. Okay. And so to not futs with things to not
Speaker 2 00:33:26 Fix. Is that what you learned from your uh, every
Speaker 3 00:33:29 Day let go. So I didn't do its own thing. It's gonna be fine. You know, not to, not to overcorrect and over, you know, ruin.
Speaker 2 00:33:36 Yeah. See what happens if you don't.
Speaker 3 00:33:37 Exactly. It's like touch, touching the game. I know that that branch doesn't supposed to go that way, but nobody else knows that. But it's gonna bother the heck outta me. And it's like, so I was one of those type of, you know, now I really love just doing the abstract pores and seeing what happens. So I do a lot of those cuz I have the time for them. Whereas a landscape watercolor might take me three, four weeks to do depending on, you know, what time and when I can get back to it. <laugh>. Yeah. Yeah. And then where was I when I was doing the last time I was working on
Speaker 2 00:34:03 It, I know I have so much unfinished work. I get to like 90% and then I just can't. Yeah. I can't, I dunno what it's like, you kinda lose interest or it's the hardest part <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:34:15 Yeah. So sometimes, you know, stepping away and then you come back to it. Right. And, and it's,
Speaker 2 00:34:19 It's you're like finish. Yeah. It comes to you versus, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:34:23 So good thing about deadlines. Sometimes
Speaker 3 00:34:24 Finishes is tough sometimes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:34:26 You know?
Speaker 1 00:34:27 Absolutely. That's when they have the deadline. Like, you have to have something done by a certain day.
Speaker 2 00:34:31 Right. I am, I am, I need the deadline. Yeah. I, I'll admit, I definitely do <laugh>. I'm always right to the last minute. Like,
Speaker 1 00:34:38 Yeah. So I'm drawn to that one a bit. You said that that was
Speaker 3 00:34:42 New, the hotel, right? Yeah,
Speaker 1 00:34:43 In a
Speaker 2 00:34:44 Hotel. Yeah. So Erin Danelle, who, who's a friend of mine and who's a graphic designer and did all of my graphics for my store and everything. Oh, okay. Her son also went to Hamilton and she, I'm like, where do you stay? You know? Yeah. Blah, blah blah. Yeah. So this was, I went to school in upstate New York, so I, I love upstate New York and I think it's so pretty and it has its own sort of unique qualities too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and everything. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And this was a, it had its moment in history and this hotel was built during that moment and it was kind of a grand like, uh, mid late 19th century hotel. It's now owned by the Hilton. So it looks <laugh> like a Hilton inside. And that's Hilton Furniture, which I now just ruined my sail at that painting. But it has this sort of like the scale in the lobby and the restaurant, even though the, the furniture's really boring. I like, like that contrast of like kind of the scale and the fancy walls. And then, and then this was, um,
Speaker 3 00:35:33 Because that's nothing they were put in today, it wouldn't have multi paneled windows
Speaker 1 00:35:36 Would be, you
Speaker 2 00:35:37 Know. Yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. And then the light was interesting. Yeah. So that's usually what motivates me
Speaker 1 00:35:43 To do. You get fixated on like chairs and stuff like that when you're painting interiors, like having like the
Speaker 2 00:35:49 You the chair. Oh, I can get fixated on anything. Whether it's like, and then I'm like down that little, I like back up and get out the big brush again. I like the little brush I have to, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It's so hard. Everyone's like, oh I wanna paint loose, you know, blah blah blah. But it's so hard to do. I mean it takes like so many years to allow yourself and to acquire those skills where you can paint more freely or openly or whatever. Yeah. I just, I like the, I mean I'm a huge Hopper fan,
Speaker 1 00:36:16 So Yeah. That has the hopper quality to
Speaker 2 00:36:18 It. <laugh>, I love kind of that psychological I'm looking
Speaker 1 00:36:20 At, I'm trying to feel get like to see. Yeah. That's it. Cause he has like those interior shots. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Like
Speaker 2 00:36:27 That are contemporary to him in his time. He doesn't exclude any details. He's not trying to like, you know, make them sort of those like Walter Gay hang artist, you know, that kind of genre of like these beautiful fan kind of, um, Willie me chase, like those beautiful lush interiors where they're showing off where they're, they're painting carpet and they're painting feathers and they're painting hair and glass and metal and you know, all the, all the different surfaces. But I, I'm, I'm more of a hopper. Um, I just saw the hopper show that's at the Whitney a few weeks ago. Hopper paints New York. Yeah. Oh my God. It was so packed. I don't know why they made you sign up for a time slot cuz it seemed like <laugh>. It was a free for all in there, but, but so
Speaker 1 00:37:07 You wouldn't believe there
Speaker 2 00:37:08 <laugh>. I know its exactly. That's probably it. Chaos. Yeah. Yeah. It was so worth going to. It was a fantastic show. Yeah. And yeah, he's, he's just master. I mean Yeah, I know you see his work everywhere cuz you know, there's a poster and everyone has a poster in at their home or whatever, but <laugh>, which is fine, posters are fine too, but I, I certainly can't afford a hopper. So <laugh>
Speaker 1 00:37:27 Yeah. Sometimes that's your best
Speaker 2 00:37:29 Option. Yeah. But I love this. I saw this show we were having a vacation in Maine once when my kids were little and Bowden College, they have an awesome art museum and they have, they have quite a few hoppers and they have all these other main artists. Yeah. And so they had the show Hoppers era of mm-hmm. <affirmative> of, it was a hopper show, but with his, a couple galleries dedicated to people painting at, at the same time in Maine. It was fantastic. Anyway, so Steve Martin collects hoppers, so yeah, they're outta my, yeah. <laugh> outta my price range. But I do look at his work a
Speaker 1 00:37:58 Lot. He's an an inspiration for or
Speaker 2 00:38:01 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And there are so many, since I've kind of been on this interiors kick like for the last two or three years, there's so many great contemporary artists. So many Yeah. Out there, all over the world painting the same thing. Yeah. And that, that is what, you know, the internet for is so great for, for artists. You can look at so much stuff,
Speaker 1 00:38:19 You just find the sprays.
Speaker 2 00:38:20 Yeah. And see what kind of motivates you or inspires you or maybe it'll give you an idea or whatever. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:38:27 Like I said, I'm very drawn to that one. I like both. I like both of
Speaker 2 00:38:30 Those two. I'll paint that scene again cuz I have, there's a restaurant view that I can't wait to do. Do it. It's like really fun with big tall windows. Yeah. So
Speaker 1 00:38:37 When you, when you do that one, do you, do you do any of the work like sketches on location or like No. Like, or
Speaker 2 00:38:43 Just Yeah, I paint from a photo. Photo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my choice is always to paint in person. Yeah. There's, there's so many limitations with a photograph. Yeah. I mean, it's really hard. And then you end up kind of peering into the photograph and seeing things that probably aren't there. And I mean that that's a, that's okay too. I mean Yeah. But there's so much color in the shadows that you don't see and the perspective's a little wonky. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So you kind of have to, but yeah, I mean to paint, paint out
Speaker 3 00:39:08 And Lovely. You have been in there though, which is nice. Versus having somebody said, I was here, paint this for me and like, you know, got somebody handing you a photograph
Speaker 2 00:39:16 On vacation. Yeah, that's, that's definitely hard.
Speaker 3 00:39:17 You know, it's like, okay, I've never been to Nic. I can't paint the waterways. I don't know what they are
Speaker 2 00:39:23 Like. Exactly. It's a whole, you know, so true, so true. Yeah. I painted a commission of, it's not Nat Beach, but it's, oh God, it's on the National Seashore. It's a very specific beach. I'm not thinking of it. I pressure, I know, I know. I have no memory, but the tide goes way out like miles and it's got a very distinctive, you know, reflects the sky. So the sand is kind of this purplely blue color. Oh
Speaker 3 00:39:47 Yeah. Yeah. You always got like the salt flats look, you know where
Speaker 2 00:39:49 You get. Yeah. Yeah. So I had to Google it and you know, I couldn't just take the photograph <laugh>, it was so specific and I knew that meant something to them and it was an overcast day that they had the, the photograph from. Oh my god. I, that thing, I sweat that out for like two weeks. Yep. That was, that was tough <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:40:07 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:40:08 Got through with little help from my friends too, you know, like what do I do when um, I remember Margaret let me a Ken o video. That was helpful.
Speaker 1 00:40:15 You have a few of Margaret's
Speaker 2 00:40:17 Pieces to it. I do, I
Speaker 1 00:40:18 Do. Yeah. I have one of Margaret's, like some milk cartons that like minute she like those little school Yeah. Milk cartons. So Yeah. Which is like
Speaker 2 00:40:26 <laugh>, no, she's done a bunch of the 30 day challenges where she Yeah. Sometimes makes up her own or she'll join a group or whatever, but she's a couple times she's done what's on my breakfast table. Ah. And so you get the cereal bowl and the milk carton and the honey and the, you know, and she's got great like silverware and she has great bowls and you know, she's just very, everything's very um, chosen. Yeah. Not just in her work but in her home too and Yeah. No,
Speaker 3 00:40:51 It's very funny cuz Laura who was just on chatting, she had a whole series of still lives where it's all just overhead shots of different types of cereal walls. Love. Yep. Whereas different. Yeah. You should definitely check those decorative, uh, awesome Talos and stuff underneath. All, all in different just colorations and things. It was just, when you said that I was like, oh, that's funny. So it's not that out there to have cereal <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:41:11 No, no. And it's something like, you know, even the Rainbow Fleet or certainly World's End or like painting something multiple times over and over again over the years has so much, there's so much you can learn from that coming, like getting that much closer to your mm-hmm. <affirmative> subject and you can continue to learn from it and get, that's where the like real growth comes from. You know, painting, painting something that you're familiar with over and over again. I got a sticker to Sandy Beach when we moved to Hingham. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I shouldn't be saying this. I'm, I don't live <laugh> anywhere, but it, it does, it, it, it did used to happen anyway. I'd be sitting there for, you know, with my kids and they'd be down by the water andwhatever and I'd bring like a little tiny box and I would like just study the hi, like where the water meets the sky. Mm-hmm. Like I would just paint that mm-hmm. Over and over and over again and try to see different times of the day or different colors. Yeah. And, and that information is like, now I have that. Yes. So when I am somewhere I can get to it a little Right. Quicker. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:42:08 Light wouldn't hit the water that way. No light would hit the
Speaker 2 00:42:10 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The horizon line thing is just mm-hmm. <affirmative> infinitely interesting. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> <laugh> nice.
Speaker 1 00:42:16 Yeah, you'll definitely have to check out it sounds like, sounds like Laura's stuff might be a nice, and you know, I think you'd appreciate her work. So Yeah. Cool. We're working on launching some artist pages. I think we're close on Laura's too, so you should be able to find that through the Frame Center. That's another thing we're trying to like, that's
Speaker 2 00:42:31 Amazing cuz we are,
Speaker 1 00:42:32 We might have one for you in the
Speaker 2 00:42:34 Works too. There are, there's a lot, there are a lot of artists that for whatever reason could really use a venue
Speaker 1 00:42:39 Well. Yeah. I mean, well in some of 'em ha You know, like, so when we're not trying to be like an exclusive venue where I think of a, what we're trying to do. Well no, I mean, I want to have a, like a catalog of artists, but it's really more like a pass through, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, we're not trying to like keep their, we're trying to put that up with their social media and stuff just so that people discover new artists and find, you know, like, I love that like you talking about Laura, you know, and maybe you forget her name, but then you can go on, you could pop onto our site and you know, scroll through some of the featured artists and see her stuff and Oh, that's the one that we talked about, you know, that's Laura's stuff. Yeah. And they click through and see, you know, a representational amount of her stuff. Maybe a quick little bio and like our relationship with us and then, you know, you click onto her stuff and off you go. You can kind of keep track of them on their, you know, a lot of people on Instagram. That's
Speaker 2 00:43:32 Fantastic. Progress. Produce your, you're facilitating the discovery,
Speaker 1 00:43:35 I think. Yeah. I mean I think that that's a awesome, you know, I mean, and I'm sure you do a similar thing in the sense when people come in and they are, whoa, what's this? You know? I mean, I, I'm not a big antique guy, but I do like, you know, I recognize it as art and whatnot and I'm sure that like the dogs and like people, like all of a sudden,
Speaker 2 00:43:52 Like your
Speaker 1 00:43:54 Dogs, you ask a couple questions and all of a sudden like now you have a little bit of knowledge on that subject and it gets you that much closer to buy. Yeah, yeah. To buying
Speaker 2 00:44:02 It. Well and or you just learned something that day Yeah. That you didn't know before. Yeah. And, and it, it takes you down another path or, yeah.
Speaker 1 00:44:07 It's, I mean, I think that that's our, you know, I like the idea of people buying art. I mean, obviously that's helpful for us, having original stuff, having our community, like of artists and people that, that come in, giving them a venue to be exposed like we are with the, with the gallery space, with the podcast. And then also, you know, I think the artist pages, I think will be, I see it as like my, you know, my mission now. You know, like, and I, I want people to, you know, find artists that they like. And being that either matchmaker or like that pass through, I think is like a,
Speaker 2 00:44:39 I I think it's fantastic. It totally comes across on all your platforms of, I mean, social media and everything. It, it's fantastic. And it, it, it's creating a community of people that, I mean,
Speaker 1 00:44:49 I think the communities here, I think it's almost like, it's like making, getting people aware of it. And then kind of like tying in like other things too. Like, you know, like buying antiques and appre, you know, maybe that's like somebody walks in, you say a lot of people buy their first painting cause they're coming in for something and you know, there is that connection. Yeah. So I think it's, you know, in my head, you know, I'm thinking five years down there, I think it's a great thing. And I think it getting us shining a spotlight on the art community here. And maybe trying to like, I mean, I'd love for like, all these associations that kind of compete for the same audience to like, kind of like come together. Yeah. And maybe that's our, maybe that's our role too, is like, you come here so you can see what's on all those different platforms. I mean, we're working towards that on the website with our calendar, and I think that we're in a very early stage, but I think that at some point we can kinda get that going in the right
Speaker 2 00:45:44 Direction. We gotta check that
Speaker 3 00:45:44 Out. Yeah. Like the yellow pages of the, uh, social art area. Yeah. Come here and kind of branch out to where we need to go.
Speaker 2 00:45:50 Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:45:51 I love that. Plus if you find someone and you start looking at their work through Instagram, you'll probably get hit with a, at the algorithm and then you'll find like 10 more people are, uh, are similar. I, my daughter recently was like, once some, what heck is preppy artwork and <laugh>. Yeah. So I love, that's been showing me a bunch of that. And they're like, that just kind of explodes now. That's
Speaker 2 00:46:11 The eighties influencer.
Speaker 1 00:46:12 Yeah. I have a lot of heart, lot of,
Speaker 3 00:46:14 We'll stop coming back.
Speaker 1 00:46:16 But yeah, I mean, it's, it's cute stuff and she, it's fun watching her. And
Speaker 2 00:46:19 I'd love, I wanna know what preppy art, like what is Oh,
Speaker 1 00:46:23 I'll show you. We'll
Speaker 2 00:46:26 Be,
Speaker 1 00:46:26 We're gonna be redoing her room with some
Speaker 2 00:46:28 Originals. I love it. I love
Speaker 1 00:46:30 It. Yeah. You'll see, you'll see it on our, we'll see it on our Instagram soon. Soon enough. Oh. I think
Speaker 3 00:46:35 See the new trend, preppy,
Speaker 2 00:46:37 I think you've had on other posts, certainly, I don't know if you've done it in, in this venue, but seeing artwork in people's homes. Yep.
Speaker 1 00:46:43 I,
Speaker 2 00:46:44 Yeah, like, it's kinda like MTV cribs, like everyone loves to look inside each other's home <laugh> to
Speaker 3 00:46:48 Have so many people send. We're like, we're like, oh, we really love it. We'll, we'll talk. We, we'll have to show you pictures when they come back. We're like, yes, send this to pictures.
Speaker 2 00:46:55 We wanna see it in
Speaker 3 00:46:56 Space. We wanna see, well, we're take,
Speaker 1 00:46:58 We're, no, we've been trying to do some, we've done a bunch of my house. I want to go far just to like, tell stories behind each painting, which might be a stretch. Or maybe it turns into like a going in and seeing, maybe it's just like seeing an overview of somebody's house with a lot of art and then touching on a few. But yeah, maybe it sounds like you have some stuff. Maybe when you're ready to show off, we'll take a field
Speaker 2 00:47:18 Trip. We'll, we'll see. I just moved, but, uh, but I've got all my artwork up, so that's, that was a priority. So.
Speaker 1 00:47:23 Well, I think it's fun. I think it, it's
Speaker 2 00:47:25 Inspiring. It inspires and encourages people. Yeah. That if you see it, you can do it it sort of thing and Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:47:30 Yeah. I think people shouldn't be like those first time buyers that come in, like, is that, you know, kind of, it's
Speaker 2 00:47:36 Intimidating for whatever reason. Yeah. You know, whatever has been buying fine art, original art has been mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, for a select group of people. So people think or whatever. And it, it's just fortunately not that way anymore. Yeah. Which means that more people are buying art and so, or more art can be made. Yes.
Speaker 3 00:47:54 I've had a lot of friends recently who have, you know, they've bought their own home, they're starting a family and things like that, and they've gone from the poster framed art on their wall Yeah. To actual artists that they found through Instagram or through everything. Yes. And they've brought it in for me to frame and we'd go take, I put it up on their wall and everything. If they're
Speaker 2 00:48:09 Like, I always hung real artwork in like, girls' room because if you, they ended up, I want them to be looking at something good like, oh, <laugh>, you know, they're in there a lot.
Speaker 1 00:48:17 Yeah. Well you wanna think differently too, right? So like, you don't want to be s staring at the same, you know, like, I mean, there's something to be said for like masters and like certain pieces of work, but like, if you're doing the same thing, thinking the same way as everybody, like, you know, art's meant to be expressive. It's like you're supposed to look at stuff and interpret it and like, I don't know. I mean, if you're guided down that same thing, you know, like if you're doing the same thing as everybody else and thinking the same way as everybody else, it's like, where's the, it's
Speaker 2 00:48:45 Not as interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:48:46 What was that piece where you used to keep getting in all the time? The dog on the bed there. Master bedroom. Master bedroom
Speaker 1 00:48:51 Song.
Speaker 3 00:48:52 How many times did we have that come in in like one week? It must have been like a showing or something of it that everybody went to go see and everybody came in with it to get it
Speaker 2 00:48:59 Framed, like a different variation of the dog on the bed or literally the same
Speaker 3 00:49:02 Thing, same
Speaker 2 00:49:03 Poster, just framed the same poster.
Speaker 1 00:49:04 We
Speaker 3 00:49:05 Framed it like 17 different ways. So it all looked different, but it was just funny to see.
Speaker 1 00:49:09 I mean, I guess says that there's that too, so you can make it your own by framing your own way. I don't want frame those. I don't wanna like knock people prince.
Speaker 2 00:49:16 Yeah. There's no right or wrong. Certainly.
Speaker 1 00:49:17 But I mean, I just think that having that, that original artwork or that connection is so important. And that's like one of those, those stories that I want to start to try to tell and like, explain to people so that they get inspired,
Speaker 3 00:49:29 You know? Yeah. We never wanna knock anybody for going to like a convention or a showing or something coming back with like a concert poster or something that they, you know, that's, that's not what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 00:49:39 It's more, although my dear friend who has a beautiful home in Boston, <laugh> had some stuff that I think they got at a convention and I, I, I'm being a little snobby here, it's mass produced. Yeah. It's like, come on guys. Yeah. Like, you can, you can do better.
Speaker 1 00:49:52 Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that there's, so there's the educational piece, right? Yeah. Because some people just don't, I mean, some people don't choose to, they don't care to know.
Speaker 2 00:50:00 They don't, they may, it's just not, like you said it doesn't interest them or,
Speaker 1 00:50:03 And, and, and that's, that's fine. But some people I think are just, they're either intimidated or they just haven't, they're not educated on it
Speaker 2 00:50:11 Or it's not their category.
Speaker 1 00:50:12 But you can see that people, I think that that's like a almost a little bit safer or better than like someone's just buying cuz they all, everybody else has that one. So I might Yeah, there's
Speaker 2 00:50:24 A lot of that going around too in decorating there. There is too. Yes. Certainly. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:50:28 Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2 00:50:29 And that's a phase you go through and, but maybe
Speaker 1 00:50:31 That's
Speaker 2 00:50:31 A gateway, a certain time period in your life. You don't yet have the confidence yet. So you're, if you do whatev what others you're doing mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, you're, no, that will be acceptable or something, but then, then you mature out of that. Or some people never go through that, which is great. I mean then there's, it's independent thinkers
Speaker 3 00:50:45 Go buy the piece to finish off a room just to put something so they don't have a blank wall. But ah, it's up there. I don't need to replace anything every a while. You know, and it's like you put it up as a placeholder but you never replaced a placeholder. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:50:57 You know, it abs it happens. I mean it's hard to be critical of your, something you see every day. Cause you stop seeing it, you know,
Speaker 3 00:51:03 I don't, can't tell how many times people brought me in and it's like the building 19 poster that they got, like the 19 hasn't been around for <laugh>. God knows
Speaker 2 00:51:11 How long they did sell some things. Oh, I've got some great stuff out there. Not art, but I like bugs. I
Speaker 1 00:51:16 Dunno.
Speaker 3 00:51:16 It's ok. And like, you know, you gotta framed plastic, it can't be replaced. We gotta do something different on it, you know. But that's funny how somebody will wanna save $19 a picture they bought for that and they'll spend $200 to put a new frame on it because, you know, it's just so part of their normal everyday life. They need it back up on their wall. Yeah. It means something to 'em. Even though it was only
Speaker 2 00:51:37 $19. There's some connection to it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:51:39 <laugh>. Well, I mean, some of the stuff, some of, I have a couple like my kids, I mean that can be made into like fine art and that's like that good story behind it too. Yes. Right. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, more so than just on the refrigerator for a couple years. Absolutely. Yeah. I got one piece of my daughter's that's like, it's almost got a rainbow fleet type of, uh, feel to it cuz she, you know, had drawn with a bunch of
Speaker 2 00:51:59 Different preppy art. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:52:00 I mean it's her, it was like a, it was her. Yeah. That's why she has the love for it. <laugh>. But I, I had entered it in the show at North River, you know, it's hung in like a prominent spot in my house. Cause I really like it. I, I thought she should have forgot, you know, I thought maybe she should have won an award, but, you know, <laugh>. But it's like, it has like an, a whole story behind it, you know? And I have the little thing stolen the back from when it was entered in, into the, everything was a member show or something, you know, so she couldn't get
Speaker 2 00:52:25 Turned down. Yeah. I think, um, I remember talking about that at collections committee several times of like not having, cuz there was an age restriction on the front end, you know, you have to be 16 and older and you know, that sort of thing. So we had many discussions about that. But, but what a great process for her to go through. Yeah. Where she made something and even just having it framed completely elevates it. Yeah. It's in a totally different place. It's on the wall, it's framed, whatever. But then the step further of entering it and hanging it with other artwork is what a great process, you know, process for her to go to through as a young artist.
Speaker 1 00:52:59 I mean, she had a, you know, she had a leg up on the competition to be with, you know, having the relationship with me
Speaker 2 00:53:04 For little nepotism, but Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:53:05 <laugh>, but, you know, but I mean, I have that one hanging in this, you know, have that in a frame forever. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:53:11 <affirmative>. Yep. I think I have one of your daughters, right? <laugh> outside of the box, you had a map of Marshall Hills where I lived at the time of my old main street where I lived. And I liked, you'd kind of like abstractly, like painted this white on, I don't know. I liked it. Picture and you're like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1 00:53:29 Vague. I vaguely
Speaker 2 00:53:30 This, I conversation <laugh>. I did that and I didn't really do that. My daughter did it. <laugh> <laugh>. I was like, I still like it. Yeah. <laugh>,
Speaker 1 00:53:39 That's, that's, yeah,
Speaker 2 00:53:40 She's interesting. I still have it hanging. So
Speaker 1 00:53:41 She actually has, she's sold a, actually a couple pieces. It's funny. And I tried to encourage her to draw more. She did a mermaid drawing and she gave it to my brother and he had it frame, he framed it and hung it at his place in Norwood. And, you know, he had somebody come in and had to have it. So he made a copy of it for them. Nice. With the, with the artist's permission.
Speaker 2 00:54:01 Yes. Yes.
Speaker 1 00:54:02 I think he also did give her the proceeds too.
Speaker 2 00:54:05 I would hope so. It's,
Speaker 1 00:54:06 Uh, you know, it's, it's funny. But again, now it's like I feel like I'm almost,
Speaker 2 00:54:10 You've planted the seed.
Speaker 1 00:54:11 I planted the seed, but I feel like I, I wanna push her to do more artwork, but I don't wanna push her to do more. I
Speaker 2 00:54:17 Don't, I Well, you can't, you can't. I mean, she will, but yeah. Just show, just showing her what can happen is Yeah. Is what you've done is great. Yeah. It's your role as parent.
Speaker 1 00:54:25 But it's interesting, you know, I'd like to see her produce more and you know, maybe we'll get a piece of two of hers and her preppy, uh, you know,
Speaker 2 00:54:33 <laugh>, I might be up for buying one <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:54:35 Yeah. I'll see if I can dig that one up.
Speaker 2 00:54:38 I'll never forget the first painting I sold. I couldn't believe someone forked over a hundred dollars. Which what? For this painting that I, that I made. Like I couldn't, I mean that like a hundred bucks that was like, you know, fair amount of money. It was a painting of a grapefruit and a spoon. Yeah. <laugh>. It wasn't, it wasn't bad. Yeah. I mean, I put it in like a student show or something at the Marshall Library and the North ever put together, or maybe Jody put it together.
Speaker 1 00:55:03 It was just when you were a stu like at a, a student. Oh
Speaker 2 00:55:06 Yeah. I'm still very much a student, but yeah. That was exciting. Yeah. I mean, did your daughter get like a she
Speaker 1 00:55:11 Little? She I'm
Speaker 2 00:55:13 Sure a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:55:14 She was collecting
Speaker 2 00:55:14 Some
Speaker 1 00:55:14 Cash. Yeah. She loves money. So <laugh> Yeah. It, Cheryl is well spent.
Speaker 2 00:55:20 It's, it's motivating, but it's also monetarily is kind of nice, but it's so validating. Yeah. When someone else forced some someone's willing to money for
Speaker 3 00:55:28 Something. I
Speaker 2 00:55:28 Did. Yes. It's for something you made. Yeah. It's, you know, and I definitely find myself in this position of making paintings that I know I can sell. And so I'm, I don't ever think that I'm going to be Picasso or somebody of that caliber that's going to like, oh, I must do my own just, you know, a discovery and I can't be influenced by anything or whatever. It's such an honor to be able to potentially paint something that, that potentially someone is going to buy. Right. It's a great, it's a and it motivates me too. I mean, I definitely do things that I don't care if anyone buys and I just, yeah. I, I love painting over other paintings, but I feel like I can show things that I'm interested in and compositions I'm interested in, and then still make them commercial enough. Yeah. That mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they sell. Yeah. So it's a good job.
Speaker 3 00:56:13 And you don't wanna compromise your pallets and things like that to do a sale. So I'd like to, I painted a bunch using colors I know that are appropriate for the South Shore, you know? Yeah. Sandy Gold's, you know, light
Speaker 2 00:56:25 Blue. Is there anything wrong with that though?
Speaker 3 00:56:27 Well, when it's different than what I normally paint. Like if I'm trying for myself, I, I feel
Speaker 2 00:56:32 You feel like you're lying or something,
Speaker 3 00:56:34 Or I don't necessarily always like, vibe with it. Like, it's not like what I, in the mood for painting, I find sometimes my pieces don't come out the way I want and then I'm just like, all right, well, you know, I'll do another one. So like, sometimes I'll do four or five out of a set and I might like one out of that five and the other one's, like you said, I'll paint over and I'll just do something else with, you know.
Speaker 2 00:56:51 So I mean, I think, I think the Rainbow fleet for me was like, I was so excited to paint it in the beginning and then it just became like <laugh> as we started the, uh, sweet Home Alabama. But I got a little tired of doing it. And I also, I wasn't really, like, my style wasn't really developing painting the same. I didn't know how else to paint it. I mean, I tried a few different ways that were, you know, didn't really work or whatever. Yeah. I mean, nothing's really a waste of how you learn something. Yeah. Every time you do something even fails. But at the same time, I was so grateful that I was able to sell them too. Like someone wanted to buy them. Yeah. Yeah. So
Speaker 3 00:57:25 Yeah, it's a toss up on it, you know, because like, like I like painting in deep colors, blacks, metallics, dark
Speaker 2 00:57:31 Blues. Oh, you like the dark side?
Speaker 3 00:57:32 I like the dark side of things, but it doesn't always fit things, you know, people's like aesthetics for their homes. So when I have to go to that other side, I can do it. And sometimes it turn out really nice, but it's not where my mind is going to when I'm building.
Speaker 2 00:57:42 That's what Instagram is great for too. You can just throw
Speaker 1 00:57:45 It out there to open up your Yeah. You open up your
Speaker 3 00:57:47 Audience. Yeah. Like sometimes, like the one I did, the one for the, the Hanover days one, that one turned out great, but it's also, I wasn't, I tend to either work on 12 by 12 or somewhere in smaller pallet. That one was, I think it's, uh, 20 by 30 or something along those lines. It's a, it's a, it's more of a linear Yeah. Longer profile. And so I had more surface area to work with and, and then I was able to bleed in a few different things like that. So it opened it up a little bit more with darker and heavier things. I find the smaller ones work better than, than the lighter, smaller ones. It's just, you
Speaker 2 00:58:17 Know. Yeah. I can see that. It's
Speaker 3 00:58:19 Just again, my own personal tastes. Yeah. Not, not, uh, and I'm sure other people have, let's just, I just have to find them. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:58:25 Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 1 00:58:27 So I feel like now is this one, the, the new Rainbow, the Sun?
Speaker 2 00:58:31 Uh, well that was the first I've seen this couple.
Speaker 1 00:58:32 I have, I've seen this in a couple, uh, have
Speaker 2 00:58:34 You
Speaker 1 00:58:35 <laugh>? Yeah. In a couple homes. Nice. That, you know, when I'm in
Speaker 3 00:58:38 Doing the insoles. Yeah. Is
Speaker 1 00:58:39 That a, so a lot of people come in
Speaker 2 00:58:41 That is like a, I really like to paint boats. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and water. And that is a scene in Nantucket, kind of like motif number one, you know? Yeah. Of rock board or something like the Little Red Dinghy. It's permanently parked in the harbor. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> people know it. They put the Christmas tree in it, whatever, or stroll or anything. Nantucket. I mean, I don't, I don't, I, I'm not that shameless, but I mean, it was something I was truly interested in. Yep. And I was doing a, a show mm-hmm. <affirmative> and I, I had done it the year before at St. John's Boutique. Yes. A church show, <laugh>. Yeah. But they get some, I, I couldn't believe I thought if I had sold like one or two paintings, I'd be like, great. Yeah. You know? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I, the first first year I sold 19 paintings. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:59:23 Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:59:24 So the second year I'm like, oh my God. Okay. So I, I painted more and whatever, and I had that painting and it was, I thought I did a, an okay job with it. It was the price really nicely. And I, I must have sold like, whatever, 17 paintings that year, but that was not one of them. And my dad, my father was turning 75 and I'm like, what, where do you get the guy? I mean, and he had expressed some interest in it, and so I thought, perfect. I'll I'll give it to him. Yep. So then the festival show is coming up and I'm like, oh, I don't have anything as usual. So I borrowed that painting from him. Yeah. And you know, when you put the little N Fs next to it, then everyone wants to dye it. Yeah, yeah. Of course. So Forbidden Fruit, it won a little maritime award. I, first of all, I got in, which was I think awesome. And then that's when I thought, you know what, maybe I'll make a print of it. Yeah. And then it's a, a more affordable price point. Yeah. And that was the original size and everything. It Yeah. Same size of, and it's, it's a small painting, but it has like a lot of impact mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> and it can go anywhere in your home. It's a great wedding gift. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. Size
Speaker 1 01:00:23 Is important for stuff
Speaker 2 01:00:24 Like that. Yeah. Yeah. So some artists are completely against having the work reproduced, you know Yeah. In print form mm-hmm. <affirmative> and That's fine. I, you know, it works for me. This is a, I have one other, and that's the Rainbow Fleet, because I like to have Yeah. An example of it.
Speaker 1 01:00:39 Do you find that people have bought that or the Rainbow Fleet as a print comeback and like Absolutely. Have sold them originals down the road. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Like a almost up like a starter.
Speaker 2 01:00:51 Yes. It's a great starter piece. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yep.
Speaker 1 01:00:56 Yeah. That's interesting. And then with the selling as much as you do, like, you have a connection to most of the people that buy the artwork. I know Laura, I forgot to, Laura was saying that she really like, enjoys that, you know, like knowing who's bought the pieces, like she could send them a note or something like that after.
Speaker 2 01:01:11 Yeah, I do, I do like to know. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 01:01:14 Like, she kind of drew to the comparison to like, knowing where your children are and
Speaker 2 01:01:19 <laugh>, I forgot to, I can't believe I forgot to mention Lauren Bass in my artist that I show at my story, she has two prints that she's done. One of the Lauren, Lauren Hall, hall, Lauren Hall, and one of North Street where the Snug is. Yeah. And you know, they were just, they were just kind of knockouts. Like they had like a massive appeal. Yeah. So why not, you know? And, and I saw quite a few of those. Yeah. Christina Eckerson just did, she just had one made of the Swan boats in Boston and I saw it in her studio. And I'm like, you know what you should do with that? Yeah. <laugh>, I mean, so for $300 Yeah. Versus the same size and original as like $700. Yeah. I mean, they look pretty much the same. You can have, you can have that and it's a, like you said, it's a great entry price point. Yeah. Or not a big commitment. So if you've changed your mind in a few years and you Exactly. It's not what you wanna have on your wall, then that's not a big deal. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So, not that it's disposable, but you can move on from it or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:02:15 <laugh>
Speaker 2 01:02:16 Awesome. So, I'm sorry Lauren, that I didn't mention
Speaker 1 01:02:18 That. Yeah. I, uh, I I should have been stronger in saying her name. I, I thought that, uh, Lauren was at your, at your place. Yeah. But then Yeah, she, she's, but everyone that's there, I think has a, maybe like a similar, like, similar style. Well,
Speaker 2 01:02:32 But all of Taken Margaret's
Speaker 1 01:02:33 Lost. Yeah. Is, yeah. That's the, that's
Speaker 2 01:02:35 The, so color is of interest. Yep. And, and Margaret is as good a teacher as she is an artist. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I mean, she's, she's a really great teacher. Yeah. She's, she's very, very giving and she's so, you know, and her curiosity isn't infinite. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So she's always studying something new. She's always, yeah. Like, she's always interested in learning new things, so she, she brings that to the Yeah. To the class. So it's always, I mean, it's endless. So yeah. Lauren will kind of drop in and out of her class over the years, but that's where I met Lauren. Yeah. You know, she does a lot of portrait work and that's really what interests her. So sometimes she'll be, one year she'll be really focus on that.
Speaker 1 01:03:08 She, she like that series of like, it was it her daughter Under the wa like that
Speaker 2 01:03:12 Was fantastic. Yeah. That was great.
Speaker 1 01:03:14 I knew she had the Lauren Hall one, but I didn't, I guess I, maybe that's, I feel like I've seen that Snugs. Yeah. Sh like seen by a, a number of different people. Yes. They're local because that's, uh, yeah. Everyone can relate to that Right. And hang them that.
Speaker 2 01:03:27 Absolutely. It's a popular place. Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>
Speaker 1 01:03:30 Down right down the street
Speaker 2 01:03:32 Too. Right. I, I've like several doors down. Yeah. Like when there's a football game on, on Saturday, I'm kind of bummed out. I won't, I won't lie. Yeah. Because all, there's no parking. Yeah. Near my store, <laugh>. So anyway. No, I love the snug too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So it's, it's a great place. But yeah, Lauren paints a lot of, she sails a lot. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So she, she's been doing quite a few water scenes for me, which is awesome. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then she's got, the rest of her work is commission work. So it's nice that she can have a little venue to do some other things, you know, and have a place to sell it anyway.
Speaker 1 01:04:02 Awesome. Well I was, I'm thrilled that you came in. I'm sure that Scott's gonna be able to put all sorts of uh mm-hmm. <affirmative> plugs up for your website and for the, the antique store. And I became very familiar with it. I'll make sure other people are too. Yeah. Thank you. And I think, I think we'll be taking a cruise back over at some point. I'm sure we'll be with the, our new frame center, field trip social media outlet. There
Speaker 2 01:04:24 You go. I
Speaker 1 01:04:24 Love it. I think they, maybe once you get settled after the move and you have some stuff up on the wall, maybe we'll pop in for you. Yeah. We do a, uh, Mt V crib style. Uh, yeah. You know, showing so people can see some more stuff at ev at their house. Cause I think that's another thing, people just, I think being exposed to what other people like Yes. And like realizing, oh, you don't have to be, it doesn't have to mean something to anybody else except for you. Right, right. You know, I think that exposing people to, that might help build confidence in this. Absolutely. Like that you can mix things. I'm gonna hang this on my wall, you know, like, I mean, I've had people come in over the years and it's like, oh, you know, like they're kind of making excuses of why they're hanging, you know? Doesn't matter. Like you're hanging
Speaker 2 01:05:04 Out. You not need to explain.
Speaker 1 01:05:05 Yeah. You don't have to explain. It's not like, yeah. I mean a lot of people's homes are, you know, I mean, it's not like it's out for, you know, everybody's just peering in their windows and staring
Speaker 2 01:05:13 The stuff. It's
Speaker 1 01:05:14 For your own, wanna hang stuff up.
Speaker 2 01:05:15 Enjoyment and your, that of your friends, or it should be for your own enjoyment.
Speaker 1 01:05:19 Yeah, yeah. Your own enjoyment or your own inspiration or to like, capture that memory. I think that that's a, I mean, of the vacation or of like, that you were saying earlier about buying that piece of artwork to kind of
Speaker 2 01:05:30 Commemorate a moment in your life. I,
Speaker 1 01:05:32 I think that's great. And I, you know, I think that people need more of that. We have been wrapping up the show, you know, I don't know if we want to say our, your favorite frame piece at your house, but, you know, do you want you mind telling us about one of your current favorites? I know from myself personally, I mean, I, you know, right now I feel like my, the one we were discussing earlier, May's is my favorite. But you know, I have a lot of favorites based on the day. If we had this answered a couple different ways, but you ought to tell us about one of your pieces and then maybe you can send us a picture of it.
Speaker 2 01:06:02 Oh God. It's like, it is like picking your favorite child.
Speaker 3 01:06:05 Sophie's choice. Yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 2 01:06:07 I always called, I always say that like with my center of interest, but I can't choose. It's like Sophie's choice. I want two centers of interest. But you
Speaker 1 01:06:15 Can, you can tell us about
Speaker 2 01:06:16 Have one. No, it did have a successful painting or a composition. You really should have one. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:06:21 I think a lot of people have actually. I think the ones that we've been asking, I mean, I think it's like the last one was, is always her favorite and, uh, oh yeah. And uh, the last piece she bought and then you, I mean, some other one people have can't make up their minds, so they've told us about multiples, but yeah, Rita
Speaker 3 01:06:35 Had a couple
Speaker 2 01:06:35 And Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. When someone asks in the chef like, what's your favorite piece you have in here? I'm like, this one that I just bought. So artwork piece, I, I have two of Colin Page's paintings. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> not his big work because I cannot afford that, but his studies, which are, I bought one like five years ago and one, two years ago. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And you guys reframed them. No offense, Colin. I didn't love his. Um, they just didn't work. They were great frames. So they just didn't work with my aesthetic, whatever. I put them in a similar style cuz I did wanna honor like how he saw them frame. Yeah. Yeah. But with a different finish. Like they were in floater frames and I love how they came out mm-hmm. <affirmative> and they're not in the same frame, but I do hang them together and they look great together.
Speaker 2 01:07:15 Ooh. And then you did some, I'm gonna talk about this David Graham Baker guy again, some sketches. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which I don't have a lot of. Yep. I have, um, this little Robert, uh, Henry one that I bought at auction, which I just love because it's just almost like a simple line and I'm, yeah. I love his work so much and it just, when I look at it, makes me happy. But I guess the David Graham Baker ones that you did like in a very simple black frame and I have a lot of gold frames in my house. I tell people all the time, it does not matter. Yeah. You can mix them together. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I would say it's those two. The Colin and the Davids. Yeah.
Speaker 1 01:07:49 Alright. Awesome. Yeah. Well, I am Psych came in, this conversation went kept going. I feel like we're gonna probably have to have you come back if we
Speaker 2 01:07:56 Haven't totally bore them off of that, off of their <laugh> ear buttons
Speaker 1 01:08:00 Or whatever. I think it was a great, I mean, I feel like this could go on, keep talking for, for you just unfortunately you come into the store on a regular basis. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 01:08:07 So it's one of my favorite topics. So it'll continue,
Speaker 1 01:08:11 Continue conversation For
Speaker 3 01:08:12 Sure. Coming up or a big event going on at the store. You can let us, us know. We can have you in and we'll do little thing and We'll, I love the collabs professional out, out there, you know? Yeah. All right, well, why don't you take us out, Scott. Thank you. All right, everybody. Thank you. Thanks for listening and we'll catch you next time. All right. Ya.
