Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:03 The, All
Speaker 2 00:00:22 Right. So welcome to the Frame Center podcast. I'm Dave and Scott's back with me today. Oh, thank God. You know, after, you know, after being out missing the last podcast, Elizabeth is back behind the, uh, on the other side of things, just producing away, like usual. And, uh, today we're lucky enough to have the one and only Karaoke O'Donnell, and she's brought a, like a friend. Honey is with us as well. Uh, Honey is the support, Support or the gallery dog care? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:00:51 She's the gallery, pub,
Speaker 2 00:00:52 The draw,
Speaker 4 00:00:53 The one that brings 'em all in. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:00:55 Much, much, much better behaved than, uh, Mandy. Uh, the frames that are, that's my, my puppy Mandy, when we brought her in for a bunch of stuff. And she's a little out, like, too outta control. She
Speaker 4 00:01:09 Got eight years on <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:01:11 She's a little crazy. Mine I got, I got two golden retrievers. Yeah. Yeah. And do
Speaker 3 00:01:16 They both come in?
Speaker 2 00:01:17 Um, occasionally. Mandy used to, when she was like a puppy, like, it was like, you know, she was a little bit more behaved, so we were trying to get like shots of her around, you know? Cause I mean, people love dogs, right? Oh, yeah.
Speaker 4 00:01:28 Certainly. Say we need to do like a dogs at the Frame Center calendar or something. We bring everybody's
Speaker 2 00:01:32 In. And just a good idea.
Speaker 4 00:01:34 I'll bring in Bo you can bring in your shepherds there. Get their names. Unfortunately.
Speaker 2 00:01:39 Yeah. Everyone loves dogs, right? So we posted pictures with Mandy. It was always, uh, you know, successful, but, you know.
Speaker 3 00:01:45 Oh, I love those
Speaker 2 00:01:46 Pictures. Do you, do you, does Bo uh, honey make a lot of, uh, Bo going? I know <laugh> Honey make a lot of appearance on, on, uh oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In that, Yeah. On K ko fine art.com or no, Ko Fine Art get, uh,
Speaker 3 00:02:02 Ka fine Art Gallery.
Speaker 2 00:02:04 Okay. Yeah. And that's in Marshfield. Me and Scott passed it on an installation. Uh, we were doing down, what was that for?
Speaker 4 00:02:11 Marshall Harbor Patrol.
Speaker 2 00:02:12 The Harbor Patrol. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:02:13 We were finally remembered what it was called after, you know, we weren't talking about it anymore, <laugh>. But yeah, no, we went and hung a bunch of, uh, nautical charts down there for them. So when we were swinging by, he is like, that's, I'm like, Oh, that's her place. And I could see your artwork in the windows and everything. It's a nice little place over there. I like it. Thank
Speaker 2 00:02:29 You. And you have a potter next door? Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:02:31 Mathias.
Speaker 2 00:02:32 Mathias. And you guys are doing, uh, for the first, First Fridays? First
Speaker 3 00:02:37 Fridays
Speaker 2 00:02:38 To eat 68. Nice.
Speaker 4 00:02:40 So like an open studio kind of thing. Come and meet you guys and talk about what you do. Wine. Oh,
Speaker 3 00:02:45 Food and art and pottery. He does a really nice job. So.
Speaker 2 00:02:50 Nice. How did you, did you just, was it like, just coincidence that you ended up in the space next to him? Or did you guys kind of go into the space, the spaces together or?
Speaker 3 00:02:59 Well, I've been there a year. Yep. And he just came in maybe a month
Speaker 2 00:03:03 Now. Oh, no kidding. Oh,
Speaker 4 00:03:04 A
Speaker 3 00:03:05 Very short time. Yeah. I actually saw him in the bacon aisle at the grocery store. I said, Were you the guy looking at the space next door? And he's like, Yeah. And he said, after he met me that day, he decided to go
Speaker 2 00:03:15 For it. Good neighbor. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:03:18 It helps. It really does. I don't argue with anybody. Just
Speaker 3 00:03:21 Painted the whole hallway Nice. Redecorating and making it nice. Nice. We're excited. Yeah,
Speaker 4 00:03:27 That whole area down there is really nicely done up. And especially all the murals in the area and the neighborhood that you're right at. So that
Speaker 2 00:03:32 Was, Yeah. Who's the guy that did the mural and author and Pats, I forget. He's, he's, uh, Sean's friend. He was just on Chronicle too. Oh, really? Wasn't, Yeah. Yeah. Um, oh my, geez, I'm
Speaker 4 00:03:41 Trying to remember. My first introduction wasn't when you brought me down that way, so I, Elizabeth
Speaker 2 00:03:44 And Claude, you guys talk to him at North River. What?
Speaker 3 00:03:47 Sean is the kid's name Leonard?
Speaker 2 00:03:50 Yeah. I, yeah, I think that is, Could be Sean, Sean Leonard, I think it is Sean Leonard. Yeah. I think he's the one that did the,
Speaker 3 00:03:58 Did he do the one next to Marshalls as well? That one's amazing.
Speaker 2 00:04:03 Have
Speaker 4 00:04:03 You seen that, the one that goes down the length of the brick building, Is that one there? Or is it next to
Speaker 3 00:04:07 Marshalls? Um,
Speaker 2 00:04:09 Yeah, because
Speaker 4 00:04:10 We saw a couple on the way down there, but
Speaker 2 00:04:12 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, did Marshall like do like Shane? Shane Leonard? Yeah. Yeah. One s Leonard <laugh>.
Speaker 4 00:04:19 Nice.
Speaker 2 00:04:20 Yeah. No, they out there and pass when was cool because we gotta find somebody to do something outside, out, back near my hockey, my hockey rink outside. You've seen the hockey rank yet? Yeah. Nice. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:04:29 So you're gonna have a
Speaker 2 00:04:30 Mural here. I wanna try to do something out there. I wanna do. So yeah, I want to get some paint on the wall out back at some point. You, I got a lot of crazy ideas around this place, but we've been like, you know, dampen, you know, kind of like going through a lot of, uh, you know, like makeover, you know, you know, the back room, the showroom, the upstairs, you saw the, you know, like Yeah. The space up upstairs. I mean, you, That's awesome. Yeah. That Jenna and, and Cindy's show is great. My gosh. They're coming. That's beautiful. They're coming in next week for,
Speaker 4 00:04:59 That'll be the next podcast. Yeah. Oh yeah. They
Speaker 2 00:05:02 Can't wait.
Speaker 4 00:05:03 They're lining up
Speaker 3 00:05:05 <laugh>. I came up the stairs and I don't know, I don't know if she heard me. I was freaking out. This is amazing.
Speaker 2 00:05:11 Yeah. You said you haven't been in, in a, in a while, right? So
Speaker 3 00:05:14 I haven't, I haven't been framing, I've been teaching. I,
Speaker 2 00:05:17 Yeah, yeah. My gallery. The gallery and what's name it?
Speaker 3 00:05:21 Yeah, it's my city
Speaker 2 00:05:22 Zoo. My City Zoo. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And is that the same, like, cuz you've been teaching for a while. Has it always gone under that name?
Speaker 3 00:05:29 No, it was my, um, it was butting artist studio.
Speaker 2 00:05:31 Yeah. Okay. I thought, yeah. Why, why the change in
Speaker 3 00:05:35 The name? Well, there's actually a long story about the name. Oh, yeah. Which I'll have to tell you another time,
Speaker 2 00:05:41 <laugh>, But, um, somebody asked you to stop using the name Bunny on it, <laugh>, you know? No, no,
Speaker 3 00:05:46 No, no. It's a really good story. Yeah. But, um, you know, we, we do mostly animals and I wanted to not only, um, have the kids paint and draw Yep. Birds and animals, but learn about them Oh, okay. In their environment. And just foster a love for nature that way.
Speaker 2 00:06:06 So. And how many kids do you have in the classes?
Speaker 3 00:06:08 Um,
Speaker 2 00:06:08 Six. Six? Is that, that where you max out at six? Or you I
Speaker 3 00:06:12 Could do more, but I like six.
Speaker 2 00:06:14 That's a good number for you? Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:06:15 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I do. It's hard to go one on one if you have more than that. And with that, in the, especially in a set amount of time, like how long do you usually classes run for hour and a half. Yeah. See that's a, you know, to have enough time to go to each person and kind of give your touch and teach them how to do things, you gotta have a smaller class. It'ss a little tough.
Speaker 3 00:06:33 And on, um, Saturdays we have a three hour
Speaker 4 00:06:36 Class. Oh,
Speaker 2 00:06:36 Nice. How old are the kids?
Speaker 3 00:06:38 Range from six to, I actually have a 19 year old, so I have a bunch of 16 year olds. 17 year olds? Mm-hmm. <affirmative> 19. So there's a whole range. Yep. A lot of, um, fourth and fifth graders. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:06:51 Nice. You have a preference. So you like teaching?
Speaker 3 00:06:54 I love them all.
Speaker 2 00:06:54 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:06:55 <laugh>. Yeah. And it's so fun having a six year old and a 17 year old in the same class. Yeah. Like, just yesterday they were sitting right next to each other and it's just
Speaker 2 00:07:04 Fantastic. And they don't, it's not, you know, it's not like they, the older kids aren't, uh, put off by working with the younger ones. And the younger ones aren't scared of the older ones. It's
Speaker 3 00:07:14 Perfect. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:07:15 That's
Speaker 3 00:07:15 Awesome. Yeah. And everyone learns from each other. Yeah. They inspire me too. Even a six year old's work is,
Speaker 2 00:07:21 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:07:22 So fun and free.
Speaker 2 00:07:24 Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:07:24 They have no constricts, constrictions on like where things can like be, They can do any color or anything cuz they're not set yet. Like, it's like nobody's told 'em it has to be this. It can be anything they want. Exactly. So yeah, so nice. I was in a arts class for seven years on every Saturday from when I was like 10 till I was like 17. And same, same thing like, you know, I'd have like the older kids in the back of the class, the younger kids be towards the front and then, then it would be like half a class of learning, half a class of do whatever you want. And everybody would just kind of mingle on everything. And it was funny, they have, the older kids would help with the, the younger kids, they talk and go back and forth. It's, it's, it's common ground, which is great. You know, it makes it much easier for them to relate. You know, you put a six year old and a 17 year old together in a room and they have nothing to talk about or nothing, you know, it's a whole other whole subject. But you put 'em in front of paper and pencil and it's another deal. So it's nice. I love it as it all, uh, You teaching them photorealism or is it, are they just doing, like, what are they
Speaker 3 00:08:24 Normally we do start out with, um, like we did cows yesterday. Okay. And the cows, some of them are real painterly. Yeah. And some are realistic mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And so there's a whole range. I just let them explore. Yeah. And they use a lot of different mediums.
Speaker 4 00:08:39 I mean, like, for the stuff I've seen of yours, it's like I can't, sometimes you can't distinguish whether it's a photo or if it's, you know, you know, a drawing or a painting. Just because it's just that, that good. It's that uncanny valley of Is it overlaid on top of a can? No, it's a real paint and real painting. And it's just that good. Uh, it, you know, irks me. I can't draw that well honestly. But <laugh>, because I used, I used to wanna draw that way so badly. I've had to step back and go to abstracts just to make sure I can actually be something. So, But uh, like all your animal pieces, you bringing all the time, uh, your bird prints and all those things is, it's great. But then the one you just brought in of your daughter downstairs to frame, I had to do a double take. Cause I thought it was a photograph overlaid on top of a canvas. It was really, really nice. Oh, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:09:22 Yeah. And I do like the abstract pieces. Yeah. You've seen everything for
Speaker 2 00:09:25 Me, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. The abstracts you seem to be going, doing a lot of now recently, you getting away from the birds or you No, it's still now. I still doing a lot of the birds.
Speaker 3 00:09:34 Well, yeah. You know, I was painting cows today. Um, I'm trying to think what's on my easels. Oh, I do have a big abstract of a white IBU on the easel. Um, and that's what's fun too, at the, the gallery. Cause the kids can see my progression as I'm working on pieces each week they see where it's coming along and then they help me out too. I get their advice. Yeah. To do or not to do.
Speaker 4 00:09:59 Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you get, you get stuck in an idea. You know, you ask a little one, they're gonna tell you exactly what to go. I sure do.
Speaker 2 00:10:05 And you the like, cause the bird, the birds, I feel like were kind of like your thing for, you know, a long period of time. I think you
Speaker 4 00:10:13 Said one of the mugs the other day.
Speaker 2 00:10:15 I forgot to bring in the mug. Yeah. Where's the mug? The mug. The mug. Yeah. I had the mug. Yeah, They got your back. Yeah. I have that mug. I bring it and see here. Actually, I actually went down the basement to see, cause I, you know, usually I'm having a cup of coffee on my way in and some days I'm finishing it, you know, downstairs before, uh, before I get going. And I, I like, I had it in my head. Cause I, you know, Jody was here yesterday and I brought in, I have a, I had a piece of Jody's like, uh, from her painting a day or you know, they're drawing a day. Um,
Speaker 4 00:10:48 She's up over 1800 now on those. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:10:51 1800. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:10:52 She's just coming up five year anniversary. Anniversary. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:10:55 Painting a day. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:10:57 Painting or drawing.
Speaker 2 00:10:58 Drawing or painting a day. Yeah. Might be a drawing.
Speaker 4 00:11:01 I think it was a drawing a day from what I heard from the uh,
Speaker 3 00:11:03 Gosh. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 00:11:04 Yeah. That's a pretty good streak, right? Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:11:07 She was like 1800. It was 1800 and some change. And then she said she was kind up on the five year soon. So,
Speaker 2 00:11:13 So I brought hers and I'm like, tomorrow gonna bring, I gonna bring that mug in. Yeah. I just, yeah, I completely whatever right here, you know, but Oh, that's great. But I remember the, you know, the birds. So I had the, the mug. You doing a bunch of the, you still sell a lot of the bird prints or? Yeah, no,
Speaker 3 00:11:37 I'm trying to think, uh, my gallery, it's a lot of original. The
Speaker 2 00:11:41 Yeah,
Speaker 3 00:11:42 Yeah. The abstract originals, but the smaller prints. Yeah, for sure. Um, you know, it's funny thinking back, I have paper sculptures and
Speaker 2 00:11:53 Paper sculpture. Yeahs. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:11:55 You framed so many different things for me.
Speaker 2 00:11:57 Yeah. The paper stuff is like very three dimensional. And that's, you is, that's something you still work on too.
Speaker 3 00:12:04 A little bit. I have an owl I really wanna finish and the kids are really want me to, Yeah. And then I have a, I have a waiting list of adults. Oh geez. Ready for me to, to teach a class and Oh,
Speaker 2 00:12:15 Really nice. Where you in there, in, in your studio, so mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:12:20 Nice. So I'm, I'm getting ready. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:12:23 Have you taught adults before or?
Speaker 3 00:12:25 No, but you know, with the, the teenagers, I, I
Speaker 2 00:12:30 Feel like yeah. I mean 19 Yeah. 19 year old. It's like, it might as well be an adult right there. Close enough. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:12:36 1935 you.
Speaker 2 00:12:37 Yep.
Speaker 3 00:12:38 Yeah. So I'm excited. I'm gonna do that
Speaker 2 00:12:40 Soon. Yeah. The older I get the, you know, the, the, Yeah. The older I'm allowing children to be. Right. Like Elizabeth is just a child over there. Yeah. <laugh>. Um, yeah. But yeah,
Speaker 3 00:12:55 So I was thinking about the very first oil painting I did. Yeah. Do you remember what happened with
Speaker 2 00:13:03 That? No,
Speaker 3 00:13:04 It was for, um, out of the box. Okay. And TB 10 years ago. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:13:09 Oh
Speaker 3 00:13:10 Wow. Yeah. And I, um, had painted it and I was really kind of nervous, embarrassed about, so I left it in the car. And so I brought in, um, a photograph of a sunrise. Cause I lived on the ocean. Yep. I said, Here's my otb. And you're like, Well, I thought you were gonna, you were working on something else. And I said, No, it's, well, it's in the car. And you're like, Well, let me see it. Yeah. I'm like, well, no, no, no. You're like, No, no. Come on. Bring it
Speaker 2 00:13:34 In. Yeah. Sometimes I give you pushy, you know, persuade. So
Speaker 3 00:13:38 Embarrassed. I'm like, Oh, okay. It's not finished. And you're like, Can I have this instead of the sunrise? Yeah. And I'm like, Really? You're like, Yes, please. Yeah. You were like begging me to give you this great flute parent. Yeah. And, um, yeah. So I, I said, All right. Alright. Um, you're like, Just wait, just wait and see. Let's just see what it, what it makes. And yeah. And I was shocked it, it made some money. Yeah. For, for North River.
Speaker 2 00:14:06 Yeah. That was a, that's a great, you know, that, that one was like a lot of fun. I, you know, we still do whatever, you know, I mean, do whatever they, you know, they need to help them. Cause we obviously try to support whatever we can for the art associations. And that one's a good one. I got a bunch, I ended up with a bunch of pieces from, from that. I think I have one like dot Cross'. I think I have like, uh, trying to think of who else's pieces I ended up with from, from tb. Cause I like, you know, obviously they're easy to find to the, like the eight by eight. Yes.
Speaker 4 00:14:40 Was at the time when they were still doing two different sizes or were they still restricted to one at that time?
Speaker 2 00:14:44 That
Speaker 3 00:14:44 Was back. That
Speaker 2 00:14:45 Was in the beginning. Yeah. The beginning. It was all just eight by eight. Just eight by
Speaker 4 00:14:48 Eight. Not the, uh, the weird,
Speaker 2 00:14:49 Yeah. Five
Speaker 4 00:14:51 By, by twelves or whatever. Five by 12
Speaker 2 00:14:53 By
Speaker 4 00:14:54 10. That's when I, that's when I was five by 10. Cause that's when I came along. And I did a couple for, in the five by 10 ones
Speaker 3 00:14:59 For that. So I, I wanted to thank you because I was really nervous. It was my very first one. And you, you
Speaker 2 00:15:05 Encouraged me. You're, you're very talented, <laugh>. Thank
Speaker 3 00:15:09 You for your
Speaker 2 00:15:10 Encouragement. Yes. Well, my pleasure. I'm glad, I'm glad that I've, I've, uh, I've played a role in, uh, you know, giving people self confidence. But no, your stuff is fantastic. And you, you've had, uh, like Booth stand North River too, right? Did you have something that Brad Whites? I never, or Oh
Speaker 3 00:15:27 Yeah. Brad White.
Speaker 2 00:15:28 Yeah. Yeah. Did you have something in Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:15:30 Mm-hmm. <affirmative> under a tent once. Yeah. That was a while ago.
Speaker 2 00:15:33 Well, yeah, That's probably not 10 years ago though. Right. Like the story here,
Speaker 3 00:15:38 <laugh>, you know, that was before I oil painted. So my first one was 10 years ago. The oil mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So yeah. I think it was before or around then.
Speaker 2 00:15:47 No. Yeah. And you just still do a bunch of stuff for North River or en you know, enter their shows and Yeah. And all the, all of the, uh, art associations are main
Speaker 3 00:16:01 Yeah. Um, actually tomorrow is it? Yeah. Tomorrow I'm going to deliver some work over to the South Shore Art Center. Okay. To, to try and be a gallery artist.
Speaker 2 00:16:11 Nice.
Speaker 3 00:16:13 So all their pieces are all framed by you. Yeah. All the pieces I'm rigging in. Nice.
Speaker 2 00:16:17 Yeah. Well we appreciate that. Yeah. <laugh>, we like to tie ourselves to Yeah. To, to be involved with as much of the art scene as the artist in the South Shore as possible. And
Speaker 3 00:16:27 Then I highly recommend, recommend the Frame Center. Thanks.
Speaker 4 00:16:30 You brought in several pieces this afternoon that you were working on. Some pieces we had seen before that you're just reworking and mm-hmm. <affirmative> changing and cropping sizes. Cuz now maybe you feel it's a little too one sided one way or the other. Like the goose, the Canadian goose in the hallway and the archway there. That one's gonna be, Yeah. That's gonna look really nice in that new white frame you picked for it, you know, with all the little color accents underneath.
Speaker 2 00:16:51 So how does, what's the, uh, what's the process for, to become, you just bring over the pieces and they, and Yeah. They just ju they just judge it and then they give you like, our in or out or like, step of approval
Speaker 3 00:17:04 <laugh>. Yeah. You deliver like seven to eight originals that have to be cohesive body of work. Yeah. So I figured I wouldn't bring oils and graphites. I'm just gonna bring them all the graphites. Okay. Bunch of them. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then, um, I think on a disc I put, I'm gonna put a whole bunch of the oils Yep. And then a list of every single piece. Mm-hmm. And I think a resume. Yep. And you pay $35. You wait.
Speaker 2 00:17:31 If you give in, I, I'd say it's probably just a you time of time. Cause I think that, I think you're a shoe. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:17:37 Do you make about me
Speaker 4 00:17:38 Fingers curl? I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:17:41 They'll you'll be, Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:17:42 They'll be a little, you know, Approved.
Speaker 2 00:17:45 Approved. Yeah. I pretty short. We'll see. And then there'll probably be a show that follows shortly thereafter. A Tide de SA Center. Center. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:17:53 I would love to do a show with all four mediums. Yeah. The paper sculpture, the graphite, the oil, and then walnut ink.
Speaker 2 00:18:00 Yep.
Speaker 3 00:18:01 Whistle. You guys have framed, Is
Speaker 2 00:18:03 That the, is that the eggs?
Speaker 3 00:18:05 Yeah. Yeah, the ink. The
Speaker 2 00:18:07 Brown. Is that, what is that?
Speaker 3 00:18:09 The walnut ink? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:18:11 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:18:11 I love that medium. It's like a watercolor and it's cia.
Speaker 4 00:18:15 Oh, okay. Yeah. Well I haven't heard of that one before, so that's cool.
Speaker 2 00:18:20 Do you remember what the
Speaker 4 00:18:21 I've seen him. I just, but I don't know. I might not have known. It was, that's what it was. You know, I might have thought it was a watercolor or, you know, like I said, where it's a in a softer palette like that, you know. Yeah. You know, That'd be cool though. I'll have to do up here. We'll do like one, one wall each different type <laugh>. Just do each wall with a different, different styling on it for you.
Speaker 2 00:18:39 Well,
Speaker 3 00:18:40 It'd be like four different artists. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:18:42 <affirmative>. Yeah. That Yeah. You should,
Speaker 4 00:18:43 You know, I mean, depending on the way that they're drawn and done, it can look like four different, you know, types. And if you can have four distinct looks mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's incredibly hard to do, rather than just one look that you go with for across the board. So yeah.
Speaker 3 00:18:56 I'm kind of crazy like that. Nice.
Speaker 4 00:18:57 It's just creative
Speaker 2 00:18:59 <laugh>. How's, how the, did you still paint it on the eggs? Or is that, what is that?
Speaker 3 00:19:04 I have a lot of eggs and the kids are asking if I do an art class
Speaker 2 00:19:08 To do on
Speaker 3 00:19:09 The, and they all, they all wanna do one. Yeah. So
Speaker 2 00:19:12 Yeah. Those are cool.
Speaker 3 00:19:13 I think we're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 00:19:14 Yeah, you should. I think, I think that, you know, that's kind of a, you know, Are they fragile? They are <laugh>. I
Speaker 3 00:19:21 Know how many, but not for little kids. Like the, the high school kids.
Speaker 2 00:19:24 Yeah. Like how many of those of of your own do you lose them? A couple. I've never
Speaker 3 00:19:29 Lost, lost one.
Speaker 2 00:19:31 All right.
Speaker 3 00:19:32 And I've got two for sale at my gallery. Nice.
Speaker 2 00:19:35 What's an egg go for?
Speaker 3 00:19:36 They're $200, $200. And they have a really nice stand stand.
Speaker 2 00:19:40 Yep.
Speaker 3 00:19:41 And a beautiful packaged mm-hmm. <affirmative> box. They come
Speaker 2 00:19:44 In Nice.
Speaker 3 00:19:45 Make a
Speaker 2 00:19:45 Nice gift.
Speaker 4 00:19:46 Standard size eggs. What are we, what size eggs We're talking about goose eggs. Goose eggs. Nice. Nice. Yeah. Okay. Wasn't sure we're talking quail, ostrich, what we're talking about
Speaker 2 00:19:54 <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:19:55 I do have an ostrich egg though. Oh, do you? My friend gave me It is unbelievable. It's enormous.
Speaker 4 00:19:59 Yeah. And the shelfs stick on it too, so. Yeah. That'd be an interesting one to, to work on. I'm sure. Are you
Speaker 2 00:20:05 Gonna paint on the ostrich
Speaker 4 00:20:06 Jack? I've seen people do the inside of those, you know, very fet like, you know, they'll do inside of an Yeah, they'll do, they'll do it very much like a, you know, uh, the 16th chapel, you know, the Renaissance type look on the inside. And then is it
Speaker 3 00:20:19 Like cut
Speaker 4 00:20:19 In half? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. The user, like, you get like a, the road re blade and actually cut it and score it out. And I've seen like, you can watch it, you find 'em on like YouTube, more people make on, they're fun to, fun to see. But you know, Yeah. They're definitely different. Then they'll guild the outside with all leafing and stuff like that. So it just gives you a very large surface to work with. Like you said, they're almost like, what, 10 inches tall, you know, they're huge. Wow. They're massive. So <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:20:45 Getting some ideas. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:20:47 That's interesting. I
Speaker 2 00:20:48 Don't know if I could cut it
Speaker 4 00:20:49 In half <laugh>. I know, right? That's the only thing is like, Yeah. What do you do with it after, you know, Although you get two surfaces to work on that way. <laugh> true. And you get one on each side. But you could do, I've seen people do, like I said, three dimensional work and other things along those lines too. So it's, it's nice not just always paint, you can actually add stuff inside as well. Wow. That's a nice idea. <laugh>,
Speaker 2 00:21:10 Do you paint? I haven't painted in a while, so I used to paint. You did?
Speaker 4 00:21:14 Yeah. We had that big one. Interviewers in there the other a long time. Really?
Speaker 2 00:21:17 I, I, um, yeah, no, I, I've paint, I used to paint for a while and, you know, I was, you mean I still like, but, but the kids, I'm kind of like drawn back. I'm like between everything here. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and like full time, like full-time hockey dad. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, I don't have like, I can barely find the time to, you know, to do anything. But, you know, I mean, I hope that it's something I get back to at some point. Yeah. When I, you know, when I start to discover like, free time, like, I don't like to have any, Maybe
Speaker 4 00:21:47 That'll be your mural out in the back wall.
Speaker 2 00:21:49 I don't have any, I don't have any, like, I don't feel like I don't have, I don't sleep enough. I don't do it, you know? Um, but I think that's kind of like how I have to operate. Like, I need to like, have something I'm working on constantly. Like, like the makeover here. Like, you know, Scott could attest to like you crazy ideas. My, you know, you know, starting a podcast cuz I'm not like Yeah. Trying to make, you know, trying to make that a thing.
Speaker 4 00:22:15 Came in one day, he goes, Hey, guess what? I bought over the weekend. Okay. We have, uh, a sound system. Alright. What are we doing? We're doing a podcast. Okay. We're doing a podcast. Yeah. So
Speaker 2 00:22:24 I need to like, you know, you know what the website stuff we're working on, you know. Yeah. That's like, you know, a big ordeal. Like, you know, like we got it better, but now I want it to be even better streamlined. Yeah. We want to have like, calendar stuff and first Fridays gonna be added to our calendar. Like, we're trying to have like, uh, Yeah. We like, I kind of like see it as being like, I want to have like a calendar on the website that is, um, something like what that brings together like all of the art events. So like, if you were just like, trying to find something to do, you know, you know, because well, I mean, I feel like some of the art associations, like, you know, they're competing with each other in a sense. So it's like they don't, like, you know, North River doesn't want to talk about what's going on at South Shore.
Speaker 2 00:23:11 South Shore doesn't want to talk, you know. Yeah. You know, because, you know, obviously they're drawing from drawing the same audience. But I feel like we could have something on our website that just has like, all right, just grab all the calendars, put 'em together. So if you're like, trying to find something, you could find it. You know, you, you know, you can see all your options. Whereas they probably don't wanna be like, All right, well, you know, we're showing Carrie tonight. You, you know, so they don't want to be like, But you know, if you don't like her, you can go over to North River and <laugh> see somebody else. Yeah. That's scary. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's kind of like a, it would be useful for the consumer and for the, you know, and for everybody that's showing, you know, I mean, if you're doing something like having another outlet and like that's that pushing it out, that, that's great. Yeah. It, I, like right now it's kind of not, it's just like a, as
Speaker 4 00:24:04 People send me stuff, they like, you know, it is, uh, I'll, they'll be like, Oh, I got one. Or they'll bring one in to put it on our little bulletin board that we've got downstairs. And I'm like, Okay, send me anything you have on this, any files, anything you want, I can put it up on him and we'll, we'll do it every single time you have one. Yep. And, you know, I can understand where some people forget about it or, you know, and they've got a lot going on, especially if you're trying to run your own show and get your own show promoted, you know. Uh, but like the ones like you were saying for North River and those one, or James Library or, um, things like that. You know, as soon as we get any information from them, I goes right up on, into the calendar events and, uh, just to make it like a central hub so that everybody knows where they can go to.
Speaker 2 00:24:42 But I feel like I wanted, like, I feel like it could be better. Like I want it to be better. We are
Speaker 4 00:24:47 Kinda restricted with what the program is.
Speaker 2 00:24:48 Yeah. Yeah. And then I think that it, it will, it'll, it'll get there and then, and then we tied in with like the social media and like, you know, put out posts when like people, you know, like, like we'll probably put something out next week, or, Hey, here's Carrie frame it or stuff. And, you know, to be, be sure to check out, uh, her first Friday is down in Marshfield. If you're in the neighborhood, you know, make some, We happen to be, what do we get down there? The Venus or you, if you're going to the Oh, no, no, no. What's down
Speaker 3 00:25:13 There? I'm all the way down there anymore. No. Oh, no. So I'm like, I'm right above Rafferty.
Speaker 2 00:25:17 Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 00:25:19 And we might have some kind of coupon for Raffs. Okay. For the awesome pizza. Yep. If you come to my show.
Speaker 4 00:25:26 Hmm.
Speaker 2 00:25:27 Okay.
Speaker 3 00:25:28 Have you ever had their pizza?
Speaker 2 00:25:30 I don't eat, I'm, I'm a vegan. I don't eat cheese. Yeah. <laugh>. Yeah. I haven't had it either,
Speaker 4 00:25:35 But they might have an option. They may have an option
Speaker 2 00:25:37 For, Have an option.
Speaker 3 00:25:38 Well, they, they don't have gluten free yet.
Speaker 4 00:25:40 Ah. So they probably want a vegan.
Speaker 2 00:25:41 So what's the address on, on the studio?
Speaker 3 00:25:44 1937 Ocean Street. Right. And next door to Kelly's Barbershop.
Speaker 2 00:25:48 Okay. Nice.
Speaker 3 00:25:51 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:25:52 Kelly's Barbershop. Yeah. <laugh>, whatever landmarks we got for the people that are
Speaker 3 00:25:57 Oh, famous pizza.
Speaker 2 00:25:57 Famous pizza. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
Speaker 3 00:26:00 Um, Public petroleum gas station.
Speaker 2 00:26:02 Oh, nice. Nice.
Speaker 3 00:26:03 But Shaws, um,
Speaker 4 00:26:05 The Harbor Masters. Harbor Masters right down there,
Speaker 2 00:26:07 You know. No, the, so the Harbor Master, That's the, is that where the old,
Speaker 3 00:26:13 Oh, so did you pass my
Speaker 2 00:26:14 Old plane? Yeah. Do they still have the, do they still have a sign up for,
Speaker 4 00:26:17 They still had your, When we went by there was still a gull and stuff in the window and things like that. Yeah. So,
Speaker 3 00:26:22 Oh no. So,
Speaker 4 00:26:23 Oh, we're thinking of a different place.
Speaker 3 00:26:25 Yeah. Yep. Ahaha. Yep. I'm downtown
Speaker 2 00:26:29 Marshfield. Downtown Marshal. Ah,
Speaker 4 00:26:31 Near Shaws close.
Speaker 3 00:26:33 Haws Marshalls. But I'm right on the main road.
Speaker 2 00:26:35 Yep. But did, did, did the, did he used to be down? Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:26:39 Used
Speaker 2 00:26:40 To. So I think, did they have a long time ago? But did they even take the
Speaker 4 00:26:43 Sign? No. Cause the sign was still off.
Speaker 2 00:26:45 <laugh>. I could've sw Yeah. When
Speaker 4 00:26:47 We were there. Lost my name on it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:26:50 Yeah. Who knows? Maybe me and Scott are,
Speaker 4 00:26:52 I don't know. I'm pretty sure I remember I seen the least. It was definitely one of your birds was in the window there or near there? I just remember it was just a lone bird standing like on of beach <laugh>. So like a gulf. It
Speaker 3 00:27:02 Might be someone else's bird.
Speaker 2 00:27:04 Yeah. We're gonna, I'm going back and I'm gonna get to the bottom of this <laugh> <laugh>. I'll, I'll send your pictures. If
Speaker 4 00:27:11 Its next time the Harbor Master just come by for another chart, we'll go right down there and we'll, uh,
Speaker 2 00:27:15 Yeah. All right. So you're in, you're in down. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> Nice. Yeah. And that's, I love it. And you like that space better? Is there more traffic down there?
Speaker 3 00:27:25 Yes. And I won't flood. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:27:29 Does that? Yes I can. Yeah. Cuz I could see the sea wall from near where we, where we were thinking of it was before. So
Speaker 3 00:27:34 Yeah. I, I lost my whole place. Yeah. Back in the, was it like four years ago now? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:27:41 <affirmative>, Yeah's, tough
Speaker 3 00:27:43 Flooded. Three and a half feet of water. All my furniture and everything was just a mess. And then, yeah. So I love it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I'm right on the, on the main road. And
Speaker 4 00:27:55 That's always helpful too.
Speaker 3 00:27:56 And flower boxes out, out front. You see some flowers. Oh, there you go. And they did have a Ukrainian flag, but it, it got, um, torn up over, It's been out there for a couple months, so. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:08 All right.
Speaker 4 00:28:08 Weather. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:10 We're gonna get down there, get some pictures, so, We'll, yeah, I come see me.
Speaker 3 00:28:14 Yeah, I would love that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:16 I think, I think we can, we can probably fit that in road, the frame center. A road trip. There you go. I just have to, I'm just have to surround, make sure I'm not competing with a, a, uh, hockey game on a Friday night as my son now playing in the, the Marshall Junior High, uh, team. Are they? Yeah. Yeah. They play. Yeah. He, so he plays on Friday nights, but, but
Speaker 3 00:28:39 Is it late Friday nights?
Speaker 2 00:28:41 Uh, I'm know. Today is five 40. I think he's played at like eight o'clock in some of the other ones in an hour. Yeah. Yeah. I got plenty of time. He in Pembro. He's in Pembroke tonight. This is gonna take me 10 minutes to get there. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. So that, Yeah. And, but back to the whole thing, that's why I'm, I haven't been paying much at all. Yeah. But like I said, I'll get back to it.
Speaker 3 00:29:04 You
Speaker 2 00:29:05 Will. I still, I still, when
Speaker 4 00:29:06 I get time, I do. Yeah. See you. Same thing. By the time I get outta here and get stuff done with the kids and everything, it's, Oh, it's 10 o'clock. I can start painting now. Okay. Yeah. It's just,
Speaker 3 00:29:16 And honestly, I hadn't painted three weeks today. I did for an hour. Really? And some, Yeah. Sometimes I only get to paint two weeks. I mean, two, two hours a week. Yeah. It's hard with kids and house and family and teaching. And teaching. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 00:29:31 <affirmative>
Speaker 3 00:29:32 The dog. No,
Speaker 2 00:29:34 <laugh>. That's easy.
Speaker 4 00:29:34 She's so easy. Right. I know. Yeah. She's such a hard to
Speaker 2 00:29:38 Work with. I'm very surprised. You know, very well behaved. She was train. You've trained her Well. Yeah. I've only
Speaker 4 00:29:43 Had, it's been a half hour, if anybody hasn't heard the dog by now, year and
Speaker 2 00:29:46 A half. So you're not taking credit for
Speaker 3 00:29:49 I'm not taking credit because she came from a, a family in Hingham. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Oh. I trained her and she'd be really luck out.
Speaker 2 00:29:57 Nice.
Speaker 3 00:29:58 Yeah. She's a rescue from hang them
Speaker 2 00:30:01 <laugh>. That's not good. Hey, well, she looks happy. She must have a blast out at the gallery. She come in every day to
Speaker 3 00:30:08 You. Every day. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Any kids love
Speaker 4 00:30:12 Her. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:30:13 Yeah. And what are the gallery hours?
Speaker 3 00:30:16 I am by appointment by appoint there every Saturday. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Um, 10 to one. Yeah. It's, it sounds short, but I'm there.
Speaker 2 00:30:26 Yep.
Speaker 3 00:30:27 It's, it's hard to say. Yeah. But I'm, I'm there a lot.
Speaker 2 00:30:30 So you suggest people always call me. Call. What's the number down there?
Speaker 3 00:30:33 My phone is three three nine. Yep. 9 3 3 1. 3 0 3. Nice.
Speaker 2 00:30:39 Lot of threes. Yeah. <laugh>, we'll flash that we'll get. And you have a website call now Is there a website too? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. What's the website?
Speaker 3 00:30:47 It's carrie O'Donnell dot com. Nice. But it's spelled, you know, my name's a little funny. It's k a r i e o D O n N e l l.com.
Speaker 2 00:31:00 And did you get a lot of, uh, that does that the website generates sales? Instagram, Facebook, You
Speaker 3 00:31:08 Know, Facebook for sure. Yeah. I mean, I, last week I posted a piece mm-hmm. <affirmative> to sell to, um, raise money for my kids' art class. I just scholarship now because it sold Yeah. The next day mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, it was amazing. Yep. So I raised $1,600 towards, um, scholarships to class. Nice. And I've already given out eight scholarships to kids.
Speaker 2 00:31:29 That's
Speaker 4 00:31:30 Awesome. That's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:31:32 So it's amazing. Facebook is easy like that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> very, very, very cool.
Speaker 2 00:31:38 Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:31:39 I'm sure you haven't established following at this point now with, uh, <laugh> what's, you know, how long you've been doing this for, and everybody seems to, you know, recognize your pieces when, when they're up and in the shows, I'm sure. Right.
Speaker 3 00:31:50 Yeah. It, it is always surprising to me. But a lot of times I'll sell a piece where people are like, I've been watching you for years, and I finally decided mm-hmm. <affirmative> to buy it. Hmm. Yeah. I'm always amazed
Speaker 2 00:32:03 You are. Yeah. Yeah. I was telling Carrie earlier that, you know, she had a piece, I, I remember the show you did with David at, at, uh, you know, at his studio. And we framed a ton of the pieces You did. And there was one that, you know, that I particularly like. It was a duck and it had like, the, the way, you know, it had like the, i, I don't even know.
Speaker 3 00:32:23 Oh, ripple
Speaker 2 00:32:23 Effect. Yeah. Yeah. What's the name? Yeah. Is that, Yeah. Yeah. So it had that ripple effect going on Rabbit it, <laugh> that was, Yeah. But I didn't act fast enough. It someone else sna underneath you. Yeah. Yeah. That, that was, that was, uh, from that, you know, from that series, that was definitely my favorite of, of, of your stuff. I
Speaker 3 00:32:44 Love that. Thank
Speaker 2 00:32:45 You. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean that's, you know, I've been trying to like, you know, push, you know, people buying original art, buying like local and like, that was like one that I, I, I remember like in it generally, like it always happens, you know, pieces get away from you. Right. Whose pieces do you have at health? Oh,
Speaker 3 00:33:06 Um, well I have a, a bunch from the, um, Society of Animal artists that I'm part of. Yeah. International group. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I have a bunch of work from from them. Yep. But from around here, I do have a Laura Harvey piece I love.
Speaker 2 00:33:24 Yeah. Laura's stuff's great.
Speaker 3 00:33:26 Yeah. And, um, Blue, Marsha Blue. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I'm trying to think. I would love a Jody Regan piece.
Speaker 2 00:33:36 Yeah. Jody stuff's fantastic. Yeah. You should take her look on her Instagram cuz she posted every like, so on her Instagram, she posted the piece that she, that's her daily piece. Yeah. She has a show coming up in December with one of, through North River. I'm not sure which, you know, outlet it is cuz you know, they have like the library. Yeah. It might be the library, The Dolphin. The Dolphin Gallery. Yeah. Is that where her shows? I've only gotten a few minutes into the editing that episode, but yeah, I believe she mentioned she was gonna be on the, uh, Dolphin Gallery. Yeah. Cause she's, I think she's trying to do it like, you know, she, she was kind of going over her plan for how she's gonna be framing some of the stuff. And you know,
Speaker 3 00:34:14 Those, the little are they li all the same size?
Speaker 2 00:34:17 I don't know if they're all the same size or not. I think they kind of, you know, they're all over the place. But yeah, I'm looking forward to framing that stuff. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I like Jody stuff a lot too. I have so fun. I have like two coasts that, um, I was telling her yesterday, it was like from a, a bar that, like where I used to live in Boston, it was just like a place I used to always go. Yeah. Like I used to, you know, it was like Right. Literally like at the bottom of the, uh, the corner, you know? So when I, Your personal cheers. Yeah. So like, when I still dragged, that was like my stop, you know, every day. Plus they sold pizza, you know. Oh. So yeah. Two for one. There you go. So it was before, you know, before I changed my diet and, you know, my, my, uh, drinking habits.
Speaker 2 00:34:58 Um, so I, you know, we used to go there all the time and, you know, my wife knew that, you know, I think I'd brought her in there a number of times before I moved outta Boston. And, uh, you know, she must have posted it on, uh, you know, the, the pictures, uh, you know, from her drawing a day. And my wife bought those, so gave 'em to me, so. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So I, I, those are the only ones I ever heard. But I, I, I like her stuff a lot. I, I have, uh, a painting of Laura's, like a cow, and I have a couple, I'm trying to think of what else I have. Ooh.
Speaker 3 00:35:36 Oh, I have a
Speaker 2 00:35:36 Sally, Sally Deans. Yeah. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:35:38 Yeah. I, a really cool piece from her. Yes. We did a trade. Did
Speaker 2 00:35:43 You <laugh>? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. She'd have Sally do a portrait of <laugh>. Funny. I, that's one of the pieces I have is like a of Sally's is a, uh, a piece I had her do for my wife of a, a dog that ours had passed away. Really? Yeah. But, you know, cause, but I like Sally's, you know, the way that she paints. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. The pet, you know, the dog portraits fantastic. And she really captured her too, so it's
Speaker 3 00:36:10 Nice.
Speaker 2 00:36:12 But yeah. She, what, who and the, a lot of the stuff animal related that you, they have, you said that like an animal society?
Speaker 3 00:36:20 Oh yes. The Society of Animal Artists. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:36:23 You have a lot of your own stuff hanging around.
Speaker 3 00:36:25 I do. Just because I, if I don't have space somewhere and you have an empty wall, you know, it goes up. Um, my speckles painting is hanging right in my house. You guys framed that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It looks, looks really nice.
Speaker 2 00:36:39 Do you, do you get attached to any and you won't sell any of your own stuff or you
Speaker 3 00:36:45 Oh, that's a good question. I, after, if they've been with me for a while, I start to get attached. But usually I'm, I'm fine. I'm like, let's go, let's sell it. You know? I love knowing it's in a good home.
Speaker 4 00:36:59 Yeah. Especially if you had to rework it three or four times, you know? Right. I don't wanna look at it anymore. <laugh>, I've seen too much of it. It haunts my nightmares. Yeah. No, I've been there. So yeah. Same thing with my hallways full of just paintings just stacked up in my, again, I don't sell 'em that often. So when they didn't up, just taking up space. So when you said, like you said, wall, wall space is a premium. If you have the open space at home, just getting them up and off the floor is nice. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Definitely. So, but speaking of on the wall. Mm-hmm. What is your favorite piece you've ever framed?
Speaker 3 00:37:30 My favorite, I guess the speckles painting. Yeah. The dog on the chair. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And you guys framed that
Speaker 2 00:37:36 You're gonna have to send is a picture of this one. So
Speaker 4 00:37:39 We can Yeah. So we can add it to the hand.
Speaker 3 00:37:40 Well, it was the frame that you don't sell anymore. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> the omni frame. It was surprisingly. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> worked really awesome on it. Yep. But you don't, I I wanted to get another one. <laugh>. Yeah. They don't, they're not good enough anymore. You guys are like, you know what, they're not made well, I don't want 'em here. Yeah. So I respect you for that
Speaker 2 00:38:04 <laugh>. Well, appreciate that.
Speaker 4 00:38:07 The last thing we want to have is somebody's thing. You know, a picture coming out of the, the frame falling off the bottom of someone's picture and having to bring it back in here cuz the quality wasn't right. So
Speaker 3 00:38:15 The quality is really great though, on the one I have. So,
Speaker 4 00:38:18 And they'll start off that way. A lot of that's another thing, A lot of materials that we get in here, the pictures will start off great and all of a sudden they'll decide to switch to a lesser grade material when they're making their pieces and they'll get cracks in the finish or they just don't join well anymore. And it happens just because, just like any other industry thinks change and prices go up and, and people have to switch materials. So it's, Yeah. But I can't tell you how many different companies have just continued certain pieces in their own line. Yeah. I'm sure. Just probably because they weren't either selling well enough or they were just too darn expensive to make. Yeah. So it happens a lot to us, especially in the last couple of years with Covid. Yeah. You know, that really
Speaker 2 00:38:52 Supply chain changed
Speaker 4 00:38:53 The way supplies, uh, happened. Warehouses only stocked what they knew were was gonna sell every single time. And they started really going through all their things and getting rid of a, of the old smaller miniature ornate frames or like, you know, the very large ornate frames and making them as special order pieces only and taking two to three times as long to come in. So.
Speaker 3 00:39:15 Well there is a piece though, the, um, speaking of the walnut in Yeah. My real big pelican piece Yep. Has an absolutely gorgeous frame from you guys Italian mm-hmm. <affirmative> with the wood grain.
Speaker 2 00:39:28 Oh, okay. It was, yeah. I think I remember this one. Really
Speaker 3 00:39:31 Rich and beautiful. Yep. Expensive <laugh>.
Speaker 2 00:39:35 Yeah. Some of those ones I cheap. Yeah. Well hopefully it was worth that. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 00:39:39 There's a keyword there. Italian, I think is what the keyword most
Speaker 2 00:39:42 To me though. That's usually a side that's gonna be expensive. Good taste.
Speaker 3 00:39:45 I used museum class. Yeah. So mm-hmm.
Speaker 4 00:39:48 <affirmative>. Yeah. It makes a difference. Especially on, you know, lighter colored pieces too. You, if it's got, if it's a light and soft piece, the wrong glass and that can make it just disappear.
Speaker 3 00:39:57 I love that. Yeah. I'm a fan. I can't go back now to regular class.
Speaker 2 00:40:01 Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:40:01 Yeah. I have to snap us a couple pictures of them so we can put 'em up with this post. Yeah. Yeah. So people know what we're talking about. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:40:07 I can do that. We
Speaker 4 00:40:08 Love
Speaker 2 00:40:08 That. Yeah. That one used
Speaker 4 00:40:10 To have a what's on your wall subject that we used to ask for people to send us stuff all the time. So
Speaker 2 00:40:14 Yeah. I have this other thing I'm trying to work on too. I wanna like talk. Cause I think, so one of the things I think about like with original art and like the paintings like we're talking about like Sal, you know, I mean everything that I have, all the original stuff, I feel like it's like they all have a story behind them. You know, like the ones a Jodi's like the Coasters. It's like, so we're trying to do like a series and we're, we're working on it and we're How, how far off are we, Elizabeth? How is the editing coming? We've done a couple takes. Yeah. Anything getting, anything getting close. I think we have some good ones.
Speaker 4 00:40:47 I can't rush these things. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:40:48 So I wanted like, so I was gonna start by just like, going around at my house and just going to like all the, you know, the different pieces and just kind of like telling what the backstory is and like what I like about him or, you know, when I bought it or, you know, I was talking to Jody about it yesterday too, and she was talking about she, every time she goes on vacation, she always buys something, you know, so that Yeah. Yeah. Marie. Yeah. So there's, there's something, something to it. I don't, I just feel like some, I feel I don't, I don't know if, you know, if you, you sell art so you, you, you might know or have an insight on it. I feel like sometimes people just are intimidated to buy art cause they're not sure if they, you know, even if they like it, they're not sure why they like it or they don't have enough infor like, knowing who the artist is I think is helpful.
Speaker 2 00:41:36 It does. I think it, I feel like it, you know, Oh, you know, that's, you know, this is one of the carries and you know, like I feel like that, you know, I guess an artist being established or something in the community I think is helpful. Cause then the, the person's less intimidated for like, take a chance. But I mean, I think people should take chances on art. Especi original art, especially like Jody was talking about yesterday was like, you know, the art and the barn thing that North River does where you can buy like,
Speaker 4 00:42:03 Oh yeah. The, uh, the sales. Sales that they do for the mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 00:42:06 <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Well, um, speaking of, um, art, um, um, the walls and being intimidated, um, I try to take that piece out of, um, for somebody by, they would take a photo of their wall and give me the dimensions. And in Photoshop I place, Oh, there you go. Yeah. Art on their wall and give them a whole bunch of options and sizes and colors. They, they'll tell me what their interested in. Yep. And,
Speaker 2 00:42:35 And that works.
Speaker 3 00:42:35 I create a whole series of options. Yep. And they could see their own house, what it looks like. Yeah. And that has been amazing. Yeah. That's a great, People love that.
Speaker 2 00:42:44 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:42:45 That's, that helps.
Speaker 4 00:42:46 It's how I picked our flooring for our new house. Same idea. You know, and take a picture of where you're in, actually put the flooring in so you can see how it looks. And it changes your whole look of how, you know, buying something in a store versus seeing you in a space. Yeah. Lighting might be a little different, but you get a great idea of how it's gonna end up being, like you said, for the space, a piece of how it's gonna take up. So may be thinking it's like, Oh, I got plenty of space for a 24 by 36 piece. And they get home and then it's like, Oh, the window space is only 18 inches. You know, that's another thing, you know,
Speaker 2 00:43:12 I feel like I see that, like when I go, I've been into places and I feel like it's the opposite. Like IOCs things that are too small. Like I feel like they like Yeah. It's like that. Like you could have three of those, you know, to fill the wall better, you know?
Speaker 3 00:43:26 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like I keep looking at that one over there. It has a nice feel around It works
Speaker 4 00:43:32 Well. Well that's the thing. Everything else is on, it's neutral so that color really comes out in that space, which is really
Speaker 2 00:43:37 Nice. Yeah. I, I just, I, you know, that's a, it's a good idea. Men, you know, people, you can offer recommendations too. I'm sure. Like, I, I just feel like people are intimidated by buying art and they shouldn't be and they should just buy what they like and then they should, I don't know. You know,
Speaker 3 00:43:54 Not find a spot.
Speaker 2 00:43:55 Yeah. I mean cuz who wants to have like a, you know, something you bought at Home Goods on your wall, you know, like,
Speaker 3 00:44:01 Or like, it's so bad when I'm in Home Goods
Speaker 2 00:44:04 And you see that art is awful. Yeah. Yeah. I mean there's some, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I just, it's, I just don't think it's, you know, like, you know, Oh I bought this cuz it matches my SoFi. Oh, oh yeah. Or you know, I mean I think that people should buy things that they have a connection to or that I don't know you
Speaker 3 00:44:23 Yeah. And you said there's a story behind it, why they bought it. Yeah. There's also a story that behind what the artist Yeah. Did mm-hmm. <affirmative> to create it. Yep. There's that story. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:44:34 Yeah. No, you know, I think that there's tons of, you know, a lot to be told behind like, like pieces of artwork. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:44:42 We had it happen with, with uh, Mike Sleep's pieces downstairs, the boat shot that's down there from on Nantucket. How he had gone to shoot on a bright and sunny day and by the time he actually got to the location, storm weather had come in, you know, New England waited five minutes, the weather changes and it was all dark and cloudy, but he was already there. So he snapped 50 or so shots of it, came back the next day, went to shoot it again. It was bright and sunny. Ended up liking the one that was more, you know, moody with the, the colors because it changed the way everything looked in the picture. And, you know, but he's like, again, now I know that story. So every time someone asks me about it, I can able to tell them about it. When they say, they're like, Oh, I love this. And it's like, yeah, there's a reason behind it. There's a lot of work that goes into a lot of these pieces. So, you know, it's not just 10 minutes in front of a canvas and you're done. No, it's, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:45:28 We shot a YouTube, we shot a YouTube video with him about like, just talking a little bit about a few of his pieces. I think that that helps too. Cause like, I think when someone sees like a, you know, like a painting or viewers, if they know like a little bit more about it, especially like the abstracts, you know, like I think, I think it just, you know, I don't know if it like, you know, if it, if it gives them like a justification for wanting to buy it or you know, or it's just another thing that they can relate to, you know?
Speaker 4 00:45:57 Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, hopefully people don't feel they're not deserving of original art. Everybody should have a piece that they, you know, went and found and or had a connection to instead of, like you said, just yeah, an old art.com poster or something along those lines. You know, Nothing wrong with that to fill a space, but there's no, there's no meaning behind it other than like you said, to match the couch or to
Speaker 2 00:46:19 Yeah. Match the couch or, you know, I dunno. I mean, I mean, there's something to be said for, you know, getting a print of something that you can't afford. You know, there is that. But you know, if you, if you're really connected to it. But I, you know, there's plenty of options out there I think. Yeah. But do you got stories behind all your paintings?
Speaker 3 00:46:36 Every single
Speaker 2 00:46:36 One. Yeah. Yes. You should tell 'em, you should put, you should put together like a Yeah, you should definitely do. I mean,
Speaker 3 00:46:43 People wanna know.
Speaker 2 00:46:44 I think so. I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 00:46:46 I get people that ask this questions all the time. We'll be putting something away that somebody has brought in and they've left and we're just cleaning up everything. Getting everything put away and going get, and people be like, Oh, and then like after the person's left, they, they start to asking, I'm like, the person was just here. You could have asked them, but they're afraid to like go up and, you know, like ask them questions for afraid of being asking a stupid one or I'm guessing, you know, something along those lines. I'm like, there's no stupid questions was artwork. Just ask it. Cuz that's the only way you're gonna find out about how something was done. Like you said. I didn't know that those ones were done in the Walnut Inc. I thought they were just watercolor. Now I know <laugh>, so I'll have to look into that too. So,
Speaker 3 00:47:22 Yeah. And um, these days every piece is my own art, my own photography. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 4 00:47:29 <affirmative>, right
Speaker 3 00:47:30 From, from my own
Speaker 4 00:47:31 Photography. Yeah. Stuff you've done yourself and things, or you've been in the location before. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 00:47:35 It's not just, you know, there's a whole story. Oh, that's great. The abstracts are fun. I, Yeah,
Speaker 4 00:47:40 They're very freeing. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing to really tie you down to. It has to look this way, It has to look that way. You know, the beaks not right. The, you know, something that can be very open, which is why I've started doing more of those myself instead of doing the landscape watercolors that I used to do, just cuz time. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, Yes. Color palette. I can just go wild with sometimes, you know? Or I can put 'em all in all muted tones or you can play around so much more that way. So it's so fun. Yeah. Oh my gosh, your places were large. What's
Speaker 2 00:48:09 The stories behind the, the abstracts? Why did you decide to make the
Speaker 3 00:48:12 Oh, well, well, Covid, um, I had sat down with myself and had conversation <laugh> and said, Okay, look, it takes you a really long time to do these realistic pieces. Yeah. And you're just not getting, they're not selling. I, I might get an award at a show, but it's not selling because it took so long. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it could be like 160 hours and if it doesn't sell, it's 160 hours of not getting
Speaker 2 00:48:41 Paid. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 00:48:42 So what could I do that people would like, that's faster. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and less expensive. Yep. And um, I remember I'd watch, I was watching Httv mm-hmm. <affirmative> and after three episodes of the, the Chicago one, it just hit me. I'm like, Oh my gosh. Cuz every time I'd see the art in each house,
Speaker 4 00:49:02 They'd always make their own of 'em. Make their own art for those shows too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:49:06 I could do that. So I went and bought a canvas and the first one I did, um, I posted it on Instagram and I was, I was actually shaking. I was so nervous. Really? Yes. I do get really nervous. <laugh>. And I posted
Speaker 2 00:49:19 It on, Well, you're doing a great job here. Oh
Speaker 3 00:49:20 My gosh. So people were really liking it. My best friend from high school, she said, This really speaks to me. Yeah. I was like, That's the name. It's gonna be speaks to me. Yeah. And then I, I put it in the North River Arts show. Yeah. And they called me, um, and they said it sold before the show opened.
Speaker 4 00:49:40 <laugh>. Yeah. It's always a good sign. <laugh>. Oh
Speaker 3 00:49:42 My gosh. Maybe I'm onto something.
Speaker 2 00:49:43 Yeah, yeah. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:49:45 So I just sold, speaks to me. Seven. Yeah. Okay. This last week.
Speaker 2 00:49:48 That's awesome.
Speaker 4 00:49:49 And that's the thing with abstracts, I think they're able to appeal to a larger, broader audience because it's colors and blends and there's nothing to really discerned about it. You can see what you want in the art, which is what's really great about it. So yeah. That's why I found the much more freeing and more fun to do that way too. Like you said, less expensive too, cuz you don't have to invest all the hours. And mostly it's the mixing of the material and finding what pallet you want to work with. And then after that it's,
Speaker 3 00:50:15 And I end up doing layers and layers. Oh sure. It take, it does take me a while to get it till I'm really Yeah. Depending on the
Speaker 4 00:50:20 Media working with. Yeah. So, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:50:22 And it is less expensive than, Yeah. The same size piece can be be like 1500 or my realism one would be 9,000. So it's more affordable.
Speaker 2 00:50:36 <laugh>, that's important. Right? Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:50:38 It's fun to have fun with just splashes of, you know, washes of different tones and things like that. And especially it effects of, uh, how you're feeling when you're painting it too. The mood that you're in when you're doing them. So it definitely changes how it looks.
Speaker 3 00:50:50 So, And interior designers have borrowed my pieces and brought them to homes and then they'll say, you know, we love this piece, but we want it bigger. Yep. <laugh> and I can just create another one. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:51:00 That's
Speaker 4 00:51:00 Awesome.
Speaker 3 00:51:00 Handy neat. Neat. I've done that with the Waterfall series. I have. Nice. We did one that was eight feet long. I think you guys framed it. Remember the two, four foot by four foot pieces you put together as an eight foot Yep. Um, frame. Yeah. That went to Jeru Jerusalem Road.
Speaker 2 00:51:17 Oh yeah. <laugh>. That's
Speaker 3 00:51:19 So cool.
Speaker 4 00:51:19 That's an awesome piece. I remember that one. That was,
Speaker 2 00:51:21 You got many
Speaker 4 00:51:22 Paper. It was one of the first ones abstracts I saw that you brought in. Actually, if I remember correctly, it was. And I was like, Wait, you're doing abstracts now. This is not what I'm used to seeing from you. So, yeah. It's
Speaker 2 00:51:32 Fun. And you hadn't met, you knew you'd never really worked in this abstract format
Speaker 3 00:51:35 Before. No, no. It was crazy. Yeah. And then, um, in the middle of the night I woke up, um, and I decided, Wait a minute, what about an abstract of a bird just going zooming in. Yeah. So I did the white IBUs piece mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which it now, um, has sold, but I've done, um, I think four versions of that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and um, and then the Goose Canada Goose. I did a mm-hmm. <affirmative>, a section real big and you guys framed that too. And that that's sold. But I, I need to
Speaker 2 00:52:08 Do more
Speaker 4 00:52:08 Of those. They'll to do some collaborations, abstract backgrounds, and then just like a single feather or something or, you know, you can do those, those are fun too,
Speaker 3 00:52:15 You know. Yeah. <laugh>. So it's been fun. It's just a big experiment. Yeah. I like to, to try new things and challenge myself.
Speaker 2 00:52:26 Awesome.
Speaker 4 00:52:27 And it keeps it from getting stale. Right. Keeps it interesting.
Speaker 3 00:52:30 So definitely.
Speaker 2 00:52:32 Awesome. Well, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:52:34 Well
Speaker 2 00:52:34 Thank you. Well, it's been been awesome. I'm glad you came in. I'm glad you, glad you agreed to, you know, jump in here and talk to us. So if you want to see more carry stuff, I would highly suggest, you know, getting on, checking out her Facebook page. K k o fine. Art carry carry O'Donnell dot com. We're gonna have Elizabeth, since I don't even know how to spell, we'll put that on. We'll have that flashing on the screen. Links in the description. Links in the links in the description. Uh, and we'll, we'll link all Carrie's, uh, information there. So I would suggest checking out his stuff. It's great. Thank you. And you know, next time I see one of your pieces that, that I like, I'm gonna jump on it. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna think about it and, uh, you know, let it get away like the last one. It's been a blast, haven't you? In talking to you, we'll have this conversation again. Maybe. We'll, you know,
Speaker 4 00:53:32 We'll do a part two. Part two, if you have a show coming up or something, you can let us know about it. We'll do another plug for it and go from there.
Speaker 2 00:53:39 Yeah. Maybe nice. When I get my, when I get the things off the ground with my, my next project of talking the stories behind artwork, you know, maybe, we'll, you know, we can zoom in on some of your, uh, some of your, and you can tell us some stories about, you know, the story behind the, uh, the painting. Cool. Cause I think, but I honestly, I think you should do something like that. Cause I think, I think, I think people want, like to hear people talk about their artwork and I think it's a good selling point too. It is. You know, like I I, when the one downstairs, we did the YouTube thing, we have a QR code for it too, for Mike's thing. And I just think it's a, you know,
Speaker 4 00:54:18 Yeah. It's only like a two or three minute video. It's just him explaining what it was that day and, and then it just kind of pans across the video and it's just Mike talking and it, but then now anybody wants to see it, they can just click on it real quick and it's instantly right there. Don't type anything in. Take a picture with your camera and it's on. So it's nice. That's cool. Yeah, it's really easy. We can tell you ahead and show you how to set that stuff up too. That's really easy. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:54:41 Awesome. Well, glad you came by
Speaker 4 00:54:43 Man. Thanks for joining us, Gary,
Speaker 2 00:54:46 All
Speaker 4 00:54:46 Honey.
Speaker 2 00:54:48 Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for bringing in. You're
Speaker 4 00:54:50 Come here, say hi. Come. I'm tired. I've been sitting here for 50 minutes all well, thank you very much. And
Speaker 2 00:54:59 See.
