Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:03 The
Speaker 2 00:00:22 All right, welcome to the frame center podcast. I'm Dave and I got Scott with me and today we are very fortunate to have a long time customer of the frame center and, uh, wonderful artist, uh, wonderful teacher celebrity all around Duxbury. Be LAER thanks for joining us Betina today. Thank you for
Speaker 3 00:00:44 Having
Speaker 2 00:00:44 Me, my pleasure. Um, we were able to pull bet up cuz she's picking up one of her pieces that you have Don you so nicely donated to the, uh, the Duxbury beach preservation in
Speaker 3 00:00:56 Which you very graciously and generously framed for the organization.
Speaker 2 00:01:01 Yeah. And that's how we were able to, right. That's how we were able to line up this celebrity, uh, this painting celebrity by, uh, you know, dangling the podcast uh <laugh> and
Speaker 3 00:01:12 Paying it forward. And artists for artists is awesome frame shop. No, everybody out true.
Speaker 2 00:01:18 We, you know, it's true in all seriousness. I mean, when like a customer like yourself, who's been coming into the store for as long as I can remember, um, you know, asked for something and where I'm honestly very happy to, you know, happy to help. We actually did one for Sergio also for the same organization, got some pictures it'll be up on, it'll be up on social media at no time. Um, but I, you know, what is the, uh, I mean, obviously you're in Duxbury, so that's probably a big part of why this is an important cause for you. Sure. Yeah. What is the invention? Cause
Speaker 3 00:01:52 Uh, the event is, is the beach ball for the Duxbury beach reservation and the funds actually go to the future coastal resistance initiatives, uh, which helps obviously with erosion and, and seeing the tactics and, and, and the methods they could utilize to help with the beach erosion, which maybe eventually won't help mother nature. You can't yeah. Do much about, but in the meanwhile they've done a lot of good things and um, and for that reason, yes. I mean, we'd like to have the beach. Yeah. As long as we can. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:23 Is there much of the beach left or is the piping clovers still a, uh, big thing down there? <laugh> yes. They're that's our subject.
Speaker 3 00:02:30 Uh, well, no, it was a good thing at the time, but at this point they're really not an endangered species. Yeah. Um, I don't know how much, um, how much they really need to be doing at this point to preserve them. Yeah. But it's all good.
Speaker 2 00:02:44 They still nature, nature blocked off huge
Speaker 3 00:02:46 Area and, um, yeah, they are really trying to control that in ways that, uh, anyway, it's
Speaker 2 00:02:55 A good
Speaker 3 00:02:55 Thing. It's a thing. It's a good, it's all. It's all good. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:02:57 Yeah. Well, I mean, like I said said, I'm happy to, you know, make, you know, putting frames on things, making the artwork show a little bit. I mean, the idea of it going to that fundraiser with that just as a gallery wrap is not like the proper
Speaker 3 00:03:10 Presentation, not quite the proper presentation, although it would've, it would've done all right. But not, there's nothing like yeah. Having something framed.
Speaker 2 00:03:17 Yeah. And then you don't wanna have
Speaker 3 00:03:19 Somebody yeah. At the frame center, especially I sent, I teach, I've been teaching the last 25 years to kids. What's the name of this? I'm
Speaker 2 00:03:26 Sorry. What's the name? And is it just list, list?
Speaker 3 00:03:28 It's be Lister, our instructor and it's, that's, it's just my name, my business. So website website is be lister.com.
Speaker 2 00:03:37 Yeah. And you've been in that same spot in Duxbury for
Speaker 3 00:03:40 Ever really. I used to teach at the middle school before they oh, really tour it down. And then I then resumed my classes at my studio. Hmm. Um, on St. George street. So they just get to walk there and,
Speaker 2 00:03:50 Yeah, that's a nice, nice spot. I used to see when I used to go to the green light down there. I, yeah, I remember. Yeah. I used would see it all the time. Well,
Speaker 3 00:03:58 All the kids
Speaker 2 00:03:58 Right on the way to the beach
Speaker 3 00:03:59 On the way to the beach, which is of course, you know, part of the reason why it's so important to me mm-hmm <affirmative> but, um, you know, all the years I've been teaching, which is about 30 now and between 50 and 70, 80 kids a week, I sent 'em here with, at work.
Speaker 2 00:04:14 Yeah. I've I've, we've, I've seen some of the, some of the projects yeah. Grade. Yeah, yeah. No it it's.
Speaker 3 00:04:20 Yeah. And then I inherited on the bulk of, uh, my, um, my parents' estate. Both were artists.
Speaker 2 00:04:26 Yeah. We framed a couple of those. A couple
Speaker 3 00:04:28 Reframed,
Speaker 2 00:04:29 Several I'm talking about today. Oh,
Speaker 3 00:04:33 Today. Oh, oh. In the last 13 years, a lot. I, I cataloged over over 1,274 to be exact. And, um, I've shared with family members and, and whatnot, and they always, I always send 'em here and because I come here to get them damages, it's been a really great service for me.
Speaker 2 00:04:51 Yeah. I remember the whole, the cattle, the whole catalog process. So the one that we framed today, it had like one of the numbers on the corner. It was like a matted piece. Yeah. Brought in, had the, the number from like the cataloging. And, uh, we framed that today. And coincidentally enough, we were also doing a show for, uh, doing some pieces for a show for Catherine Smith. Oh, did, did Don tell? So in one of the pieces it got picked up yesterday and I was trying to direct is that the piece of is the picture <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:05:20 Younger dude. We were
Speaker 2 00:05:21 Hoping there would've been a crossover that we could have got, we were hoping to get, you know, was here. So when, uh, so we could have gotten a picture of you with it, but it was, uh, that, where's that show Scott going, Scott.
Speaker 4 00:05:32 Oh, uh, I didn't have a chance
Speaker 2 00:05:34 To really talk to us.
Speaker 3 00:05:34 I think it was a Doug parent. She's at the village now. They do have a beautiful area where they, um, display work and have shows. I had to show there for my kids.
Speaker 2 00:05:42 Did you time? No. Yeah. Cuz she's having to show, you know, at the, the new place where she is. Mm-hmm <affirmative> but cuz Catherine had come, had come in here for you forever too. And I've
Speaker 3 00:05:52 Known her forever too. <laugh> yeah.
Speaker 2 00:05:53 Yeah. The, the portrait, but it was funny seeing the, you seeing
Speaker 4 00:05:57 Yeah. She was telling me all about how her mother would do all these pieces and then, you know, just frame them up in a simple breast frame and <laugh>, that would be it. And then she actually, she's had to go back and redo several of them over the years just to make them that's
Speaker 3 00:06:09 What we do. Yeah. You know, and ill and laying down, not feeling well and just resting and you never really rest because laying there and you're looking at your work and critiquing. Yeah. <laugh> so how do I,
Speaker 2 00:06:20 Yeah. Yeah. Knowing when to stop is a big part of it too. Right.
Speaker 3 00:06:23 And that's a huge thing. That's huge.
Speaker 2 00:06:24 Yeah. But I think we were talking to Karen about that. It's like, you know, you, you know, you, she was talking about how she documents a lot of her work and you know, you, sometimes you just, you know, you've gone too far and you've ruined it, you know, overdo
Speaker 4 00:06:38 It. Yeah. What's that one step too far,
Speaker 2 00:06:40 Letting that last
Speaker 4 00:06:41 Step, that last step that you, you mess it up beyond being able to go back and correct it again, you know, without having to start all over.
Speaker 3 00:06:47 It's nice just to stop when you questioning it and then just step back for a minute or a day or two and then look at it with a fresh eye, even in a different place because you see things differently, different places. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:06:57 Now where now, aside from teaching, where are you showing most of your work? These
Speaker 3 00:07:01 Days? At my gallery.
Speaker 2 00:07:03 Just in my studio. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:07:04 Mm-hmm <affirmative>, I'm a one person, one show as I always have been. Yeah. I've had my gal, my work at galleries before, but I found that I just, it's just nice to do it myself. Yep. Mm-hmm <affirmative> um, I can keep my prices.
Speaker 4 00:07:15 Yep. You can keep prices there.
Speaker 3 00:07:16 You can control
Speaker 4 00:07:17 Mm-hmm <affirmative> display what you
Speaker 3 00:07:19 Like and what I like and, and the people that come in and out, and I know my work goes cuz they're all my kids. Yep. And it's just really, it's a, it's a personal thing to me. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and I like being a part of that piece as well. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:07:31 You don't want else doing the sales and stuff for you? I think
Speaker 3 00:07:34 It's it's okay. But I have the venue I have, I can do it and I just don't paint it. I'm a good business person too. Yeah. And I love people. And
Speaker 4 00:07:42 That personal connection you have with someone who buy to piece. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about that before. It makes a difference when you know the person you bought it from, right. You have a little bit of a story to go along with the piece that you have when
Speaker 3 00:07:52 You all, but by that piece that you could see in Scott abstract artist. And I look at abstract art. I, I think of it as a good design. Nice color. Mm-hmm <affirmative> but Matthew, my stepson picked right up on this image, I'm looking at it thinking, oh, this nice colors. And Matt said, oh, look at the parent look. And they were talking about this piece. Like he got the meeting behind it. It's I was went right over my head. But so I look at this piece and I think of you in that day and
Speaker 4 00:08:18 That's too funny. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:08:20 So it's a
Speaker 4 00:08:20 Personal thing. It was too funny. You left, you came back. Not that long. <laugh> you go put that aside for
Speaker 3 00:08:24 Me. Yeah. Well I sent him up here. I said, go look some frames up there. And I said, fuck,
Speaker 2 00:08:28 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:08:29 Nice. And he got that for, um, and the next year after he forgot all about it. Oh really?
Speaker 4 00:08:33 <laugh> yeah. Hey, well at least he has it though. It's important. I like you said, he had that connection to, and I, I, I, I appreciated that too.
Speaker 3 00:08:40 So it's about connection.
Speaker 4 00:08:42 Yeah. Yeah. That was the one we painted in the parking lot. That the demo for the, uh, the, the, the liquid fluid force. Yeah. Nice. So,
Speaker 2 00:08:49 So you have, yeah. Nice.
Speaker 3 00:08:51 Yeah. This was in his house.
Speaker 4 00:08:52 That's nice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:08:53 Nice. Framed up the same. Did you? Yeah. Did you reframe it or did you, uh, you know,
Speaker 4 00:08:58 Did we reframe that one or did
Speaker 3 00:09:00 We use it in, in the same block?
Speaker 4 00:09:01 Yeah. Same one just videos,
Speaker 3 00:09:02 The other abstracts
Speaker 4 00:09:03 There, right? Yes. Yeah. We changed it out from cuz I had a goldish one in there I believe. Yeah. So yeah.
Speaker 2 00:09:08 That's a cool connection. I didn't, I didn't even real, you know, realize it cause Scott doesn't brag much and did
Speaker 4 00:09:12 Draw. No
Speaker 3 00:09:13 <laugh> um, I was here with, um, with my friend and, and she saw Deidre's three Deidre's pieces. There were mm-hmm <affirmative> I dunno if there were sequence, there were three, um, hanging together and, and Jen said, oh, she saw that. Isn't that be? I love that. Mm-hmm <affirmative> I thought, oh yeah, I do. And I came back and I, and so I gave it to her the next crisp and she couldn't believe <laugh>
Speaker 4 00:09:34 That
Speaker 3 00:09:35 You added from you. Yeah. So it's kind of like, it was really fun. So, and there's a connection cause I was here doing something with her. I shared had my dad's pieces with her. I
Speaker 4 00:09:43 Was gonna say framing
Speaker 3 00:09:44 Them with her.
Speaker 4 00:09:45 Yep.
Speaker 2 00:09:46 No kidding.
Speaker 3 00:09:46 You know, so it's all, it's all connected.
Speaker 4 00:09:48 Yeah. Was the black ink pieces, was that those, was it that grouping or was it the, uh,
Speaker 3 00:09:53 DIDs?
Speaker 4 00:09:53 No, the, uh, the ones that we were doing interviewed
Speaker 3 00:09:56 Of, of Jen's um, it was an Indian woman. It was, it was a portrait study. The
Speaker 4 00:10:01 Portrait studies.
Speaker 3 00:10:01 Yep. Did. And um, I'm thinking in my mind's eye, that's why I look off <laugh>. Um, it was a, um, a still life mm-hmm <affirmative> with some reds, there was a boat. Yep. A watercolor that reminded her of her dad's boat place that he used to take her and buoys that I finished that this was another time <laugh> that, um, that I finished my, I had a part, this is besides the 1,274 pieces outta a catalog <laugh> um, there was two portfolios full of unfinished work watercolor. So I was finishing them. Yeah. And learning from my decks, the bottom has all, um, watercolor testing. Yeah. So vicariously he was teaching me. Yeah. And, and I was finishing his work. So there was some buoys that I finished a dad's and Jen loved them. Yep. So it's just all kind of connected.
Speaker 2 00:10:49 Yeah. That's I mean, I think that that's like, we're trying to make a big push for like, you know, tying in and like the art, you know, artists in the community. Cuz we, you know, obviously we service a ton, you know, like a ton of artists here and we're trying to like move in the direction with the website, like establishing pages where we kind of like, you know, show, you know, just to, you know, cuz a lot of our clients are, you know, artists mm-hmm <affirmative> and it's a good way to like, to be like that bridge for us, like to be the bridge between like artists, like someone like yourself and then, you know, somebody who is in the area, you know, in the area who wants certain pieces,
Speaker 3 00:11:22 Youre the connector. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:11:24 Yeah. I mean, I,
Speaker 4 00:11:24 The go between the picture, like I know a guy.
Speaker 2 00:11:26 Yeah. No. And I think that, you know, I think that we can kind of, you know, you know, in my grand scheme of things and like the, this website that I want to like finish and like I, you know, envision having like a lot of the artists that we work with, you know, um, you know, like pages that like gives a little bit of information about them and having like a search feature. So it's like, oh, well I want like somebody that does realistic paintings of, you know, you know, of this or that. And then, then, you know, they'd be able to do a search and they'd be able to see some of the artists and then they could even ask, you know, like you
Speaker 3 00:11:58 And you'd know the artist. Yeah. You knower the artist and it's, mm-hmm, <affirmative> all interrelated and
Speaker 2 00:12:03 Yeah. I mean, I think it's a good way to give back to, you know, the, you know, absolutely because you know, like it, like it says down on the door, you know, on the window, you know, supporting artists and supported by artists. Correct. Cause it's kind of, you know, it's, it's the same thing. It's, you know, you know, we support artists in the sense that we help finish their pieces that I think can go to the next level mm-hmm <affirmative> and it can be like, all right, well, I think that's great. You we're somewhat of a authority of like south shore artists. Like we know who a lot of them are and I work with, you know, people all the time and it's kinda like, oh, who's like somebody that what's a good fit. And you know, I think that we could kind of provide that in a sense and I think it'd be fun and everybody wins.
Speaker 3 00:12:43 And the, so like artists come here once we keep on coming back. Yeah. So you get to know the person, the artists, the style, the medium mm-hmm <affirmative> the subject matters. And, and like you said, and then, you know, the other, it's almost like, well, it's a gallery mm-hmm <affirmative> you connect people up with
Speaker 2 00:13:01 Yeah. The fit. Yeah. And I
Speaker 3 00:13:03 Think that's really great for us. It's really good for you and artists working with artists, they
Speaker 4 00:13:08 Return,
Speaker 3 00:13:08 We know know absolutely. So that's.
Speaker 2 00:13:10 Yeah. And I, I mean, I, the same thing happened the other day with me, for a photographer, my friend Mike was looking for someone to do a portrait of his, uh, his daughter for senior portrait. And I, this woman Caitlin that I have done a ton of stuff with. And I just know that like her person, like personality and like, you know, Mike's an artist, Michael's you Michael coin, you know, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:13:31 He does portrait
Speaker 2 00:13:32 Her. No, no, he doesn't. He wanted a, a portrait on of his daughter for her in, so he was asking me who is, you know, who's a good photographer. Mm-hmm, <affirmative>, that's gonna pull, pull, you know, her personality mm-hmm <affirmative> cause I mean, you know, he doesn't, he's an artist, so he doesn't look at like a, you know, it's not a senior portrait, you know, like APIC, you know, it's just a straightforward, flat picture he's he wants something's
Speaker 3 00:13:51 Capture that person.
Speaker 2 00:13:52 Yeah. He wants something that really
Speaker 3 00:13:54 Through her eyes. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:13:55 And I, you know, and this, uh, girl Caitlin that I know, and, and I've done stuff with, I just know that it's a good, I can see it being like a really good fit for the two, two of them, you know, like for, but
Speaker 3 00:14:08 All different ways. But
Speaker 2 00:14:10 I think it there's, there's, it's in that, you know, and, you know, I think it's a good way for us to help connect people that, you know, are looking for sales and looking for art
Speaker 3 00:14:19 And a meaningful piece that's unique and personal. That's true. I mean, you look at a person will look at the work, you know, it's, it's it's has meaning for us as artists mm-hmm <affirmative>, but, but it has a totally different meaning for people that it resonates with mm-hmm <affirmative> and they look at that and whatever emotions that it folks or memories or whatever it is, it's, it's really kind of, it's nothing really compares mm-hmm <affirmative> really, you know,
Speaker 2 00:14:47 It's
Speaker 4 00:14:47 Much different than buying just a print off of
Speaker 2 00:14:49 Yeah. We've been trying to start
Speaker 4 00:14:50 For a color to match your room. Right,
Speaker 3 00:14:52 Right, right. And there's a lot of that too, but
Speaker 4 00:14:54 Invoking emotion feeling is definitely part of it.
Speaker 3 00:14:56 Wanna loads the most soul. Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:14:58 Yeah. We we're gonna, we wanna start a series. I, I wanna start a series in my social media team, Elizabeth Claude. Um, you know, I, I was gonna start at my house and just kind of go through, cause I have a lot of original art and like just kind of go through and talk about each piece, cuz like the things that you have hanging on your wall and like the artwork you have in your home, there's a story behind all that stuff. And it's like trying to tell that story or you know, uh, maybe, uh, educate people in the sense that it's like, it's really more, you know, you walk into a room and you see this on the wall. It's like, well, if there's nothing behind it, it's kind of yeah. Shallow.
Speaker 3 00:15:36 It it's it's it's decorative. Yeah. It's it mm-hmm
Speaker 2 00:15:39 <affirmative> but you know,
Speaker 3 00:15:39 It's like kind of right.
Speaker 2 00:15:41 It can be so much deeper.
Speaker 3 00:15:42 You so much deeper,
Speaker 2 00:15:43 You know, and you know that meaningful. Yeah, no it is. And when I look around the stuff, you know, at my house and I look at some of the paintings in some of the few of them are from people that are passed and it's like, you know, there's like every one of 'em I feel like has this story that I can mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know, I can tell. And I, I think it's gonna be, uh, like a cool, a little like series of things and then hopefully I'll expand on it.
Speaker 3 00:16:05 It's almost like a timeline. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:16:07 Yep. You've been able to tell me all about the pieces that you've brought in for your, your, your, your,
Speaker 3 00:16:10 I know it's like you guys say, oh, here she comes you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:16:13 Right. How many pieces today?
Speaker 3 00:16:15 <laugh>
Speaker 4 00:16:16 That's okay. But I love it. I love seeing all the pieces. Cause also again, I've seen the variation of what he did and with mind all the different pieces, like I said,
Speaker 3 00:16:24 You know, my family
Speaker 4 00:16:24 Exactly.
Speaker 3 00:16:25 And the boost locks came in, LUS all of us. Yeah. It's,
Speaker 4 00:16:29 It's
Speaker 3 00:16:30 Great. And you know, the whole family while you're at it. Yeah. But,
Speaker 4 00:16:32 Um, but then I get to know what you guys like too. So it's much easier for me to help you find this, cuz I know I can eliminate this and I can eliminate that and we can focus on this and then we can just make it the right piece. And it saves you guys time. It takes a strain off of struggling trying to, and
Speaker 3 00:16:47 It's another set of eyes to look at something in a different way. Like everything isn't and I didn't thought think of that. Like it, it pops. Yeah. So it's like, I wouldn't have there's things I wouldn't have thought of that. You do. And who's a gal that used to be here. The dog here that, that left.
Speaker 2 00:17:00 Oh
Speaker 3 00:17:01 She was,
Speaker 2 00:17:03 Oh
Speaker 3 00:17:03 Kelly, Kelly. I love
Speaker 2 00:17:04 Kelly. Guess she was here today. She's coming
Speaker 3 00:17:06 Back. Is she? Yeah, she's gonna be oh awesome.
Speaker 2 00:17:10 She's actually, she's gonna actually be here tomorrow. She's uh, so her,
Speaker 3 00:17:14 She has, she has a really nice knack.
Speaker 2 00:17:16 Yep. She her, so her daughter is starting, uh, is starting preschool mm-hmm <affirmative> so she's gonna, oh, I think that she's gonna probably be helping me with a few things more so than just, um, uh, like in being in a customer service role to start. But yeah, no, I mean, she's been at, you know, been away for a few years, but like now her kids are start, you know, her kids gonna be in school and it's a great fit. She's great. She there's, I mean, so many of the people that have been here for, or been here for so long, I
Speaker 3 00:17:44 Mean, for so long and to come back as I can remember, and to come back or to be here for all this time, and then, you know, it's a good establishment, you run a really good business because people are
Speaker 4 00:17:54 Happy and we're not rotating out employees every six months. Yeah. <laugh> every
Speaker 3 00:17:57 Single. So we can, we, as artists can come and say, okay, I yeah. And feel confident. I can suggest you guys to people.
Speaker 2 00:18:04 Yeah. No, I mean everyone,
Speaker 3 00:18:05 Because I know that not even just the, the, the building piece, the frames and whatnot, but there's that help in terms of putting it together. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:18:15 Yeah. The design aspect of it. Huge.
Speaker 3 00:18:18 It can make a whole, it can make one piece look totally different in 10 ways. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, mm-hmm
Speaker 2 00:18:23 <affirmative> well, there's, I mean, so like it's like art, you know, in a sense, cuz there's not like a right art or a wrong, it is, you know, there's a, no, this not
Speaker 4 00:18:30 Real wrong <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:18:32 Well, it can be wrong I guess, but I, but there's, there's a lot of correct answers and it's a matter of like, you know, again kind of like matching up artisan, you know, finding a good fit and like what the people's tastes are. There's a lot of right. You know, lot of scenarios where something can look right in, uh, different settings mm-hmm <affirmative> and you know, didn't mean, so like a rustic frame might look really nice on a piece, but like it doesn't rust doesn't fit the house doesn't fit, you know? So, you know, that's, that's part of the fund, right?
Speaker 4 00:19:05 I've been frame it 15 years. I still go and get another person's opinion on stuff for when I'm doing things for people. If I'm stuck and I'm like, I can't choose between these color. No, because we tend to
Speaker 3 00:19:13 Even see things and it like, we can't, it's, it's hard to get out of our,
Speaker 4 00:19:18 Get out our own ways, our way. So I go, I have to go grab a fresh pair of eyes. We've been working on something for half an hour. I go like Don, Tanya, somebody Don's not, what do you see? Yeah, Don. Yep. Don me. Don's great.
Speaker 2 00:19:30 Yeah. No, she, I mean, she's great. I mean, Tanya is great. Everyone, everyone, everyone is, is very great. And even the, everybody like Jade, uh, I mean, but she's even been here for what a good
Speaker 4 00:19:42 Five going up six. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 2 00:19:44 It's and you know, she's young, but she's good. And I mean, everyone starts somewhere. I mean, it's, you know,
Speaker 3 00:19:49 But you have to have an eye. I don't care if you can draw a line with a straight rule <laugh> yep. If you have an eye. Well, it's design. I came from two, my past both artists. Yep. And there's four of us siblings. I'm the painter. I'm, I'm a draws. They kind of maybe good at it. Dabble.
Speaker 4 00:20:06 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:20:07 Not even, but can't but my sister is in terms of design, she can put a, she can put a space together
Speaker 4 00:20:13 Space together. Okay.
Speaker 3 00:20:15 So before like maybe an event or some kind of like in a show, I go to, my sister says, I need you to, we need to go find something for me to learn collaborate. And she puts it together when my mother's a fashion illustrator and designers, my sister got that act. Yep. Um, my grandmother used to design Tru SOS, but nobility back in Sicily, mm-hmm <affirmative> in the twenties, which is unheard of, but she was a business woman. She did very well. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and um, so we all have our neck, you know, but we're all gardeners. We're all cooks. That's creative.
Speaker 4 00:20:42 Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Speaker 3 00:20:44 So it doesn't necessarily mean a person has to be a painter or to draw, to be an artist. You guys are artists. Yep. It's it's an art. I, I believe
Speaker 2 00:20:54 That. Yeah. No, I think that there's, there's a lot to be said for that. And they're like in like doing everything by
Speaker 4 00:20:58 Scott, I believe it.
Speaker 2 00:20:59 Yeah. Doing everything and, you know, having like a, like a, a passion for it, I think kind of invokes, you know, like that artistic thing is like cooking is an art. Right. And I mean, like you said, absolutely gardening
Speaker 3 00:21:09 Is art and then we get, we get to taste it. Yeah. <laugh> yeah,
Speaker 2 00:21:13 Yeah. That doesn't the food doesn't stick around as long as the P
Speaker 4 00:21:16 No,
Speaker 2 00:21:17 But, but I mean, there's an art,
Speaker 4 00:21:19 So we have to take photographs of
Speaker 2 00:21:21 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:21:22 Anyway, there's
Speaker 2 00:21:23 An art to all that stuff. There
Speaker 4 00:21:25 Is. Yeah. There's said for being, wanting to be where you're at and that's, we all want to be here. Mm-hmm <affirmative> that that's definitely, I think a key on it's huge, you know, cuz the person that just coming in, looking for a paycheck is not gonna have the same kind of input or insight on a lot of pieces that are looking here just to see the different pieces that's
Speaker 3 00:21:39 On the same. It's a mission almost.
Speaker 2 00:21:41 And it is that's
Speaker 3 00:21:42 Think we have goal. You have goals. I mean, do you try to, not to take away from
Speaker 2 00:21:46 Yes. Yeah. No. I mean we do. And I think that, you know, that we have goals, like setting up this website, we want, you know, like in it's a bigger, it is bigger than ever, you know, than, I mean, we were talking to Melissa who set up the farmer's market. I mean, I feel like we've been here for so long and you know, that, you know, firsthand, like, you know, I'm second generation, um, you boy. Yeah. No, it's hard to, it's hard to believe seven or something. Yeah. I was like, like I've
Speaker 4 00:22:12 Seen the early photos. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:22:14 But I mean, I've been here for forever. I
Speaker 3 00:22:16 Feel like you've learned it's it's a learned thing. I was automatically almost in, in ways.
Speaker 2 00:22:20 Yeah, it is. And I think a lot of it we're like entrenched in this community and you know, not just handover, I mean, I think we're like a big part of the south shore.
Speaker 4 00:22:29 So shore. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:22:30 You know, there's a lot of ways we can give back is in like doing something for the, the preservation at the beach I think is, is good. We're working on something for Duxbury hockey also, cuz obviously I have a tie into hockey and know a lot of the guys that are involved down there mm-hmm <affirmative> um, you know, it's right, right. It's, you know, it's, it's nice to be a part of that, but you know, supporting artists, but you know, the same thing we were supporting the south shore, the social community supported us for uh, you know, for a long time. And there's a lot to, you know, a lot of ways to get involved and like doing things like, you know, recording podcast and having fun, like, which is what we're trying to, you know? Yeah, yeah. Is really one of the things that, you know, I want to do here every day. I don't wanna come to a job that I don't want enjoy. I mean, I enjoy coming here, making frames, seeing artwork. It's not a, it's not a tough thing to do, you know?
Speaker 4 00:23:20 No, no. And if we can benefit by getting the word out for people to help 'em out, we're certainly gonna do so. And,
Speaker 3 00:23:24 And it's a small things that uh, uh, donating as you clay or a painting mm-hmm <affirmative> doing the framing or doing what we do may not be like that big of a deal to us. Yep. But the little things make a huge difference. Mm-hmm <affirmative> if everybody collaborated and worked together and not to get all philosophical. Yeah. But it's a huge thing and that's how we can all help each other. And it's just little things to somebody is a huge thing to some yeah. Somebody else it's it's enormous.
Speaker 2 00:23:53 Yeah. No, I, I I've experienced that firsthand. I mean the whole thing with the, like I started sending out free frames to people. I know just as like, you know, just to surprise 'em on Fridays and the response I get and it blows me away cuz like I talk to 'em and I'm it's who does that
Speaker 4 00:24:06 Excited about? Keeps you going, who
Speaker 2 00:24:08 Does? Yeah. Who does it? Who
Speaker 3 00:24:09 Does that?
Speaker 2 00:24:09 But you know, honestly, like when I think about it, I'm like, well, why doesn't everybody do that? Because the response that I get and like the good feeling of like, Hey, you know, I get stressed out a little bit on Thursdays when I'm getting stuff ready, but you gets like ring tone going. But, but I'm honestly like by the end of it, I'm so excited to, you know, to get it. And then on Friday when, you know, in Saturday when people have gotten the things that I'm getting messages like thank you. And like, you
Speaker 4 00:24:32 Know, you made my day, I did
Speaker 2 00:24:33 This.
Speaker 3 00:24:34 I have no idea the impact.
Speaker 2 00:24:36 I mean, but why wouldn't, why wouldn't everybody do that? You know? Like why, you know, you have a, because
Speaker 3 00:24:40 They sent they're too centered and maybe themselves that don't realize that. I mean I see little, oh, I could never do that. Or know, well everybody has their gifts. Mm-hmm <affirmative> yeah. Everybody has their thing. So altogether you can contribute. It's like what might not be a big deal to one person is a huge deal to somebody else. Cuz we can't do that. Yeah. So it's it really works.
Speaker 4 00:25:03 Yeah. Yeah. It's like I said, it's been a nice, nice place to come and work. That's not again, cuz before this I was in a corporate structure, they don't do that. <laugh> mm-hmm <affirmative> they, you know, somebody comes in asking for help with a donation or something's like, well, yeah we only do a certain amount per year and we've already exceeded our amount for the year and that's it. We're done. It's like, okay, that doesn't really, that's not how helping. And even
Speaker 3 00:25:25 If it wasn't a personal on a personal level for them, it's personal to somebody else and it's important to somebody else. So why not? It's not a big deal. Just you
Speaker 4 00:25:33 Just do it. Yep. It's helping. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:25:34 Yeah. We would like to be a part of things and it's are
Speaker 3 00:25:37 That's awesome. Sure. This is
Speaker 2 00:25:38 Awesome. I'm I'm glad you took a couple minutes to cover up here and talk to us am too. We are trying to start a new thing where we end this, the podcast. Mm-hmm <affirmative> we want to ask people about, uh, what are we get? How are we putting this Scott? What's
Speaker 4 00:25:51 Your favorite thing that you
Speaker 2 00:25:52 Framed? Yeah. What's the favorite yeah. Favorite thing you framed with us? Favorite thing you have framed at your house. Yeah. Or one of them, cuz I'm sure that you have probably lots of
Speaker 3 00:26:01 Lots and lots of mine. <laugh> all. Um, what's the story? Oh, there is a story. Can I have
Speaker 2 00:26:06 A second? Oh yeah. I'm sorry to
Speaker 3 00:26:08 Make here. Before this. No, no problem. This wasn't this, this was just kind of big open space when your dad it wasn't yep. As functional. Yeah. Uh, so when I was, um, clearing the decks at my dad's house, taking care of the estate, the artwork, everything was a huge, um, endeavor. Put it mildly mm-hmm <affirmative> you was a dinosaur house, four floors worth of artwork. Um, for my parents, from when they were in college, it was 60 years ago. Okay. So, and then, uh, okay, so then mom would paint on everything. Dad, people, dad was interviewed by somebody one time and, and um, he says, so Robert, what, what is it that you like to paint? He said anything that gets in my way
Speaker 4 00:26:48 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:26:48 And so mom kind of was the same thing in the back of pads, paper, do everything. So there was a wall, nothing used
Speaker 4 00:26:54 To waste
Speaker 3 00:26:54 In the, in the hallway. Um, in the dinosaur house that ma had, she was a Sicilian and she was loved her heritage. And she was very, an artist was very much a flare and there was a wall there was, was wallpapered. And she did this big mural. The fountain in ly, I don't know it was <inaudible> and um, woo. I remember it all growing up and I thinking, oh my God, the people who ever buys this house is not gonna be keeping that never said yellowed and places maybe ripped mm-hmm <affirmative> I took those six panels off the wall. Mm-hmm <affirmative> peeled, 'em out with some of those pieces coming off. Mark and I came up here on two, four by eight sheets of Gator board, the Gator board or the phone foam core foam board. Put it all back together.
Speaker 4 00:27:45 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:27:46 Made it into three, three foot panels. Yep. And I shifted my brother and Rob my brother Robert, because well that's because he deserved it. Yeah. We'll just put it that way.
Speaker 4 00:27:55 Kidding.
Speaker 3 00:27:56 And so I look at, I mean, I it's emotional.
Speaker 4 00:27:59 Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:28:00 You know, and oh, I wanted that and you know, it wasn't cheap to do, but it wasn't about the money, you know, by the way mm-hmm, <affirmative>, it's not always about that. It's about, oh my God. It's just so much impact. And he was just so blown away. That's the favorite thing that's because that was a, I mean I love all the, our work there's, there's been a ton of it, my work, but my dad's MAs work, but that mm-hmm
Speaker 4 00:28:24 <affirmative>
Speaker 3 00:28:25 Was not only, um, it was a project <laugh> it was, it was huge.
Speaker 4 00:28:30 Mark are very, and
Speaker 3 00:28:31 There's a mother. Mark's another one. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:28:33 Mark.
Speaker 3 00:28:34 You know, I've worked with all these guys. Yeah. Really? Um, yeah. That was, that was my favorite. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:28:39 Yeah. It sounds like. And that
Speaker 3 00:28:39 Didn't take much to me to think of that because, um, yeah. Yeah. It was on that floor. Right.
Speaker 4 00:28:44 And meant that much. Yeah. That's
Speaker 3 00:28:45 You know, this was like, there was like 40 year, 50, 60 year old wallpaper. Yeah,
Speaker 4 00:28:51 Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:28:51 Was yellow. There was rips
Speaker 4 00:28:52 Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Speaker 3 00:28:53 You know, but that was cool because some of the rips were gone and, and I just kept them that way. It's like almost like a
Speaker 4 00:28:58 Places. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:28:59 Yeah. Did you know about, did you never see that? I,
Speaker 4 00:29:02 I, I it's
Speaker 3 00:29:03 Awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:29:04 Well you, my mother all over, you're gonna have to, you're gonna have to send us a picture of that and we'll get that. It would be cool. See you, yeah. Get that up on.
Speaker 3 00:29:11 So it's three panels and he has it, like he walks up the stairs and bam it's there. Yeah. Right there. Yeah. We've been there to visit. I said, bam. It's
Speaker 4 00:29:17 Like, oh, gonna, you're gonna have to have fast.
Speaker 3 00:29:20 Tell me if, when you get tired of it. I
Speaker 4 00:29:21 Was like, you might.
Speaker 3 00:29:25 No, I, I, no, he needs to have that. That's
Speaker 4 00:29:28 Rob's yeah. It'd be good to show that to mark too, to see what that brings back for mark for memories on, oh, he'll be, oh, we're gonna do this again, mark. Oh, I remember that know each other coming. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:29:39 He did a good job and he, he sealed the, I mean he helped me put it back together and he
Speaker 2 00:29:44 Mount just
Speaker 3 00:29:45 How do try
Speaker 2 00:29:46 Hinged it down or
Speaker 3 00:29:47 No, no, it wasn't hinged. It was sealed onto that. The
Speaker 2 00:29:50 Dried, the fall mounted.
Speaker 3 00:29:51 And he had it, he mounted it. Yeah. Mounted. That was a really, that was really hard. Yeah. It was nothing easy about that. <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:29:57 Pieces,
Speaker 4 00:29:58 Which used to puzzle match to
Speaker 3 00:30:00 It was a puzzle.
Speaker 4 00:30:01 We have a reassemble newspapers all the time and having to like, you know, line up text is always
Speaker 3 00:30:05 You. I, who, who would be able to do who, where would I go to have guy that done? Yeah. And, and who would be able to do that? Even if I found a place to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, place's pretty awesome. Just say,
Speaker 4 00:30:16 Oh, that's a great way. Glad we got that. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 00:30:19 So, anyway, that's my
Speaker 2 00:30:20 Answer. Awesome. Well, thanks Betina. It's been, uh, you know, I'm glad we got you up. Here's after you hear this and you get their great feedback, maybe we'll have you back up again and we'll talk to, you know, talk some more about yeah.
Speaker 4 00:30:30 There's any other shows or anything coming up,
Speaker 2 00:30:31 Glad helping here. If there's anyone that wants to find more about you bet. laso.com, um, and students, you know, everything's there your words to
Speaker 3 00:30:40 Program. Yep. Everything for the kids.
Speaker 2 00:30:43 All right. Well, we'll make sure we, uh, link some of that stuff. Mm-hmm in the, thank you in the, in the podcast notes and whatever, you know, or whatever. However, this stuff works. Yeah. All right. Well, it's, that's uh, that's about it for today. Scott. You're gonna take us outta here.
Speaker 4 00:30:57 Thank you for joining us, everybody. And we'll see you next time.
Speaker 2 00:31:01 See ya. Hold
Speaker 0 00:31:02 On. See
Speaker 5 00:31:14 Ya. Ya. See ya.
