Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:03 The
Speaker 2 00:00:22 All right, welcome to the frame center podcast, where we're discussing all things, uh, framing related, all things, art related and all things local on the south shore. So what's happened in Scott. We got a, uh, the frame center podcast. I think this is gonna be,
Speaker 3 00:00:37 We're gonna start
Speaker 2 00:00:38 First one
Speaker 3 00:00:39 Official. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:00:40 All right. We've been, uh, we've been doing some interviews. We've been, uh, you know, getting some practice in, uh, we're still, you know, soliciting, uh, some members of the frame center staff to join us. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and, you know, to anchor this, uh, you know, this crew for the frame center podcast
Speaker 3 00:00:57 Slowly, but surely we'll whittle them down to the point where they just, you know, want to come and do it.
Speaker 2 00:01:01 Yeah. Well, I mean, if we don't get one that's in here regularly, maybe we'll get some folks to sit in. We
Speaker 3 00:01:06 Already have Mary Mary was great, you know, <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:01:09 Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:01:10 Claude.
Speaker 2 00:01:11 Yeah. Claude is on, we, we will, uh, I think we'll have a cut of the, uh, the interview from Claude and, uh, Nolan. Then we'll be, uh, you know, playing a little bit later, uh, from handover days, which, uh, we were gonna discuss, uh, in detail, um, in, in, in length go over some of our favorites and, uh, you know, just, uh, discuss the artwork, discuss the frames.
Speaker 3 00:01:35 Yeah. Discuss a little more than we were able to talk to a certain people. It was a busy night, which means successful in my, in my book. Um, <laugh> the, uh, the amount of people we were able to get back here unfortunately, was, was, was small because everybody kept getting stopped and, uh, having to meet well people they haven't seen for so long. Yeah. Because it's been one of their first shows back into the, uh, into the, uh, the local market again for, uh, for these shows. Um, which again, I think it's nice that we were some of their first place back, they came to us first is as, as the place to be. So,
Speaker 2 00:02:08 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of local, uh, local art shows a lot of, you know, really, you know, high end things that are starting back up again. And that's awesome. Um, I think this one's a nice community event, you know, you get all different levels of talent. Um,
Speaker 3 00:02:22 Very inclusive. We're anybody can be on this one, which is great. So beginners people that are professionals it's, it's a nice mix.
Speaker 2 00:02:30 Yeah. Until handover days picks up, uh, you know, picks up so much that, you know, we don't have enough space for it, but we have plenty of space here. So I think, oh yeah. I think we'll be able to accommodate, uh, handover days, uh, artwork for, for years to come.
Speaker 3 00:02:45 Oh yeah, no, no, we'll be fine.
Speaker 2 00:02:47 Um, yeah, but I thought it was a, you know, great turnout. Um, I think it's a great tie in for us to, uh, incorporate with Hanover days to have an art show. I mean, where else are they gonna host at the library?
Speaker 3 00:02:58 I know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:02:59 Screw the library
Speaker 4 00:03:01 Frame center is way cool books are cool. Books are cool. Yeah. It's just
Speaker 2 00:03:06 <laugh> yeah, no, I mean, I, you know, I got nothing against the library, Scott, you know, you know, I read on occasion. Um, but I think that the, you, the frame center to me is a better fit. Um, cause I think we're very active in the community. Very true. And, um, I think that, you know, having that focus on the art aspect of Hanover days, um, is a great tie in for us. So yeah, I've already discussed with, uh, Karen about the, you know, going forward. I mean, and I, you know, Hanover days is, you know, I, you know, and either local art show that we do with the, uh, with the schools oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 00:03:42 Is always great. Is always fantastic. Always something to look forward to every year.
Speaker 2 00:03:45 Yeah. And I think that's a nice tie in for us and, you know, that's, you know, look forward to doing more, but I thought this year was very successful. Mm-hmm <affirmative> um, I thought that we, you know, the parking was a little tough. <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:03:58 The, uh, yeah. The traffic jam we had out there, uh, which we'll, I'll plug in, plug in a little bit of the audio from that where we had, uh, people backed up on the road, just trying to find a space to come in and view everything. Yeah. We, oh my God. We got more people pulling in here
Speaker 2 00:04:11 Ripping in. I think we are, uh, here,
Speaker 3 00:04:13 We got a traffic jam out there. <laugh> pointing to all things being successful. I think a traffic jam is usually a good sign that uh, people wanted to come.
Speaker 2 00:04:21 Yeah, no, definitely. And I think, you know, I think for next year we'll, you
Speaker 3 00:04:24 Know, make some signs designated parking to the left or
Speaker 2 00:04:27 Uh <laugh> yeah. I think maybe we'll, you know, maybe we'll discuss with our neighbors about maybe putting some of our cars up there mm-hmm <affirmative> or, you know,
Speaker 3 00:04:35 I'm sure Hanover PDs been helpful with us for they were here that night. I'm sure they have some suggestions on what we can do for, for their, to make sure everyone's safe. Cuz again, <laugh> gotta be able to make it to the show in order to see it
Speaker 2 00:04:46 <laugh>. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Um, yeah, so I mean, I thought it was great. We had, the living crew was here. That was awesome. That's
Speaker 3 00:04:53 That was a big, that was a big success. Everyone loved that setup that we had.
Speaker 2 00:04:56 Yeah. They, you know, they brought the, uh, famous pink chairs out mm-hmm <affirmative> so that, that was, uh, cool kind of, um, a good way for us to announce or, you know, kind of make known to, uh, some of our customers and uh, some people through social media that, you know, we've kind of partnered up with them. We're gonna do some advertising with them. Um, I think that's a great magazine, you know, really hits our demographic and uh, it's just artistically really well put together. So
Speaker 3 00:05:27 I agree. Yeah. Very colorful. A lot of, lot of people, we, we had the chairs here for a couple days afterwards. Unfortunately needed them for somebody else had already been promised, uh, the display when they dropped it off. So they were only here for a short time, but while they were here, you know, I had people looking at 'em asking if they could sit in 'em they wanted to take pictures with it. These two little girls that came in were all wearing pink. So we had pictures with them sitting in it and it was fantastic. Everybody loved it. And then they left a few of the magazines around too. So I had a lot of people interested in flipping through those and going through 'em while they were, you know, waiting with other, you know, people they come with to, to do an order,
Speaker 2 00:05:59 You know? Yeah. They left us, they left a stack. I think they, you know, I think their hope was that we'd hand some of, I think
Speaker 3 00:06:03 They're all gone now. <laugh> yeah.
Speaker 2 00:06:05 Reload.
Speaker 3 00:06:07 They were that popular.
Speaker 2 00:06:08 <laugh> have 'em drop by some more, but yeah, no, I think it's a great publication. Um, you know, I think we had a lot of fun too. Um, you know, try getting those ads put together. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, um, you know, that's a, that's something that we're going to continue to work on, uh, print ads and, you know, try to find things that are really well done with Claude. Um, and Elizabeth and everybody else here mm-hmm <affirmative> um, you know, to try to put together some, you know, good
Speaker 3 00:06:33 Collaborative effort
Speaker 2 00:06:34 Yeah. And kind of show, you know, I think it's an important statement, uh, for our customers and potential customers to see that, you know, we have,
Speaker 3 00:06:42 You know,
Speaker 2 00:06:42 Yeah. In doing it in house, I think is also important cuz it kind of shows that, you know, this is our, you know, we're not paying some, you know, advertising firms.
Speaker 3 00:06:51 No, no. We
Speaker 2 00:06:52 Something to design something that we, you know,
Speaker 3 00:06:55 Well, it's just how creative we are. Yeah. We have all the people that we need to do that kind of work, which I think is, is a benefit for us. You know? I mean, uh, like I said helps having, <laugh> a person that we know running the periodical and having the places to put the ads, but having content from someone local being able to design it, do the layout, do the photo shoot and have it all set and ready to go and then have it displayed. And something like that I think is great all just from in-house like you said, it's all everybody here. It's not anything, like you said, an advertising, somebody else's idea, somebody else's thought it's all our stuff that we're, we're putting into it, which is, I think control is, is, is great on that aspect.
Speaker 2 00:07:33 I think it is too. And it's fine, you know, plenty of, uh, social media, uh, you know, posts that come out of that sort of stuff too. So I think it's, uh, you know, it's gonna be a lot of fun and you know, I think that, uh, you know, people see, you know, that talent of, uh, of Claude for shooting that stuff and oh yeah. He was fun to talk to it. Yeah. Handover days and you know, you can tell how passionate he is.
Speaker 3 00:07:56 Oh, he was excited when he was running
Speaker 2 00:07:57 Around promo project.
Speaker 3 00:07:58 Oh, the Dromo project. Yeah. No, that was fantastic.
Speaker 2 00:08:01 Um, so you know, he, he definitely, you know, is enthusiastic about that. And, uh, Nolan was, you know, was actually really interesting to talk to too. Yeah. Um, you know, I'm looking forward to, you know, working with him, doing some stuff, uh, you know, in the future that's, there was a couple of artists that, uh, you know, that I didn't, um, couple of artists who I didn't recognize their names, but you know, sure.
Speaker 3 00:08:27 We had a lot of new entries this year and it came from a lot of things just like Nolan. He only really started doing photography during the pandemic. That's when he started playing around with everything. And, um, I think that was also a great thing to show that we had someone like Claude who went to school for it as fashion design, uh, background has, you know, photography, layout, all, all that kind of stuff already set up. And his style versus Nolan style, which is much more outdoors. He does the drone shots, the aerial things. So it was again, two different types where it's a studio shot. And one is a, you know, a living example of what's going on around the outside. They're all live shots. They're not anything that was staged or anything along those lines. And the fact that both of those guys were able to come and talk about it in depth of what they both get out of.
Speaker 3 00:09:19 It mm-hmm <affirmative> I think was great again, seeing someone who went to school for it and had, you know, put his dues in to get there. And then another person who just discovered he had a talent that he really enjoys now and is doing and getting more. I went through his website, uh, after he left, uh, he left us his card and went through everything and some of his shots are, are fantastic. I've seen tons of Claude shots cuz he's here all the time. Yes. And I, you know, getting to work with him, it's, it's awesome to see his stuff. And it still surprises me with like the, the color, that pink background on, on his piece. It's just like, so eye catching and then you got the exact opposite with Nolan's Nolan where his is complete almost darkness. Yep. Which is a small highlight of light in the center of it. It's nice polar opposites to see, to see some different, different shots, you know?
Speaker 2 00:10:04 Yeah. Funny story behind his, uh, this stuff too, that people like the like hearing that when they hear the interview.
Speaker 3 00:10:09 Yeah. That'll be fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:10:11 But yeah. And there was some, uh, do you have any other favorites that were out
Speaker 3 00:10:15 There? I mean, I, I, there's always ones that catch my attention when I've seen so many of these pieces come through and we've worked with so many of these customers, like I've worked with, uh, Rosemary day who did a, uh, does like layered tissue yep. In other materials and does usually, um, one way, and then we'll discuss something completely different when she comes in and we'll try it out just to see how it looks mm-hmm <affirmative> and, and, uh, finding a whole new way that she liked to do stuff like the one that she put in the show for this time, uh, was completely different from any of the other styles she's worked with before she's been,
Speaker 2 00:10:46 Did she do the small pieces that were the gallery? That was that her
Speaker 3 00:10:50 Too, the ones? Oh no, no. The ones the little, the little cards. No, but we'd love to get her in here too. On, on that one. I can't remember her name off the top of my head, but, but those are fantastic small little watercolors that she did. Yeah. No Rosemary does the, uh, the layered tissue and she does like little flower gardens and different things like that with stampings and inks and things along those lines, layers with some depth to it. And normally we go just simpler frames basic, but lately we've been trying out a whole bunch of new things with, you know, brilliant gold or colors mm-hmm <affirmative> and just trying different sizes that she's not normally comfortable with just to expand her, you know, her style of, of her art. And she entered this one in and got sec, I believe it was second place for, for her tissue is second or third, but she did place for, for her mixed media yep. Piece. And everyone seems to really love it. And I think it's just a really nice, bright and colorful piece on the wall. And then you got something like Joe McCort. Yeah. Which is, you know, oh yeah. Whole
Speaker 2 00:11:44 Up strawberries, bright, vibrant <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:11:45 Yeah. And, but that red frame that's on there. Yeah. It's like it's again having the right frame for the right picture. Yep. That super dark black saturated background with the closeup of the strawberries and the sugar. Just rolling. Yep. Rolling over it. And then having that same strawberry red frame on it really kind of makes it bold and pronounced yep. Design. And I really like something like that, it just catches my eye and something I'm not notice normally seeing with, you know, typically a black frame, white Matt. Yep. And a color photograph, nothing wrong with it, but it's, it's different. And it's, I, I like that like heavier, bold, deeper look myself,
Speaker 2 00:12:19 You know? Yeah. There's all sorts of different mediums, you know, throughout the show too. Mm-hmm <affirmative> yours, yours is another, uh, you know
Speaker 3 00:12:25 Yep. That was something new I played around with. I had never done one like that one before. So that was, that was interesting.
Speaker 2 00:12:30 Yeah. I thought the, the, uh, the gold frame on yours was kind of an, you know, an interesting, uh,
Speaker 3 00:12:34 I was originally thinking white, but then I thought it might be too blendy. It might not give it enough of an outline, a definition from it on the wall. If somebody else has some, you know, lighter, whiter colored walls. The colors that I used in the piece are, you know, some light greens are very coastal colors. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:12:48 And yeah, no, it has a, it has like a very ocean. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:12:52 It's supposed to have like, kinda like a wavy organic kind of feel, cuz it's all done with air. There's no brush strokes in it. So it's all moved by air there's no, it's just liquid paint, air, canvas, and just blending the colors in the right, right ways to get the, the look you want. But if, like I said, if I had gone too light with it, if I hadn't put a deep enough border on it, it would just blend into a lot of local wall colorings. And I did it very in mind with somebody who would have a coastal look around here. Typically I tend to go the other way. I tend to go bowl bright, deep, and with the ones I can cuz it's outside my normal comfort zone from when I used to do my watercolors. Yep. So I try to go the opposite way and this way I just wanted to play around with something that I knew would appeal to a lot of people in the area. I think nothing wrong with that. Nothing
Speaker 2 00:13:36 Wrong with that
Speaker 3 00:13:37 At all. But the gold I thought was a nice, bold touch to put around it. Just to kind of make it stand out a little bit brighter.
Speaker 2 00:13:42 AB absolutely. I think you nailed it has that very, uh, you know, has that watery, you know, you know, like, you know, what do you call it? Like foam of like
Speaker 3 00:13:51 Yeah, like crashing wave exactly
Speaker 2 00:13:53 Type of effect.
Speaker 3 00:13:54 And that's exactly what I thought of once it was all done and it was dried, I'm like, okay, that's what this one's being called at the water's edge. <laugh> yep. So
Speaker 2 00:14:00 Some, you know, some other ID, you know, some other, uh, frame center artists also, you know, featured waves mm-hmm <affirmative> uh, I think that, uh, Elizabeth did some waves. I was very happy about the, uh, the turnout of most D's piece of it.
Speaker 3 00:14:16 She had the, uh, the smaller water color. Smaller. Yeah. It has just a couple of tones in it with the, uh, black frame.
Speaker 2 00:14:21 It's just an abstract.
Speaker 3 00:14:22 Yeah. Very, just simple, nice washes of color and tone mm-hmm <affirmative> uh, floated yep. With the matting surrounding it and then that high gloss black with the natural wood finish on the outside. Yep. So again, very simple, very clean, but it's, it's got something that catches your eye and attracts you to it. Yep.
Speaker 2 00:14:38 Like it, well, I think the frame center was well represented. Um, you know, we had Mary who, you know, was the reigning, uh, Hanover Hanover's greatest artist, the upset who was, you know, I, I don't, I don't know, know I wanna, I don't wanna say that, you know, I called it, but I, you know, I think I called it <laugh> I, I said, you know, I thought son was a threat. I thought he might take over the, he did Hanover, uh, greatest artist award and he nailed it. Uh, he, with a very, uh, interesting piece,
Speaker 3 00:15:06 Just think of you now come to can to get a summer job. He never, would've been noted, known about it. Never would've entered this piece in maybe, you know? Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:15:14 But I, you know, you know, well done. I thought his piece was very well done. Mm-hmm <affirmative> another floater frame kind of like yours. Yep. Um, see who else was represented Jade with her ghost? I'm a big fan of Jade's work. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:15:26 Her art's really cool.
Speaker 2 00:15:27 Um, you know, I think that, that was her piece was very nice. I was actually, I thought, uh, you know, again, Mary's piece was a, a very, uh, big hit. I,
Speaker 3 00:15:37 I was very life lifelike and realistic looking.
Speaker 2 00:15:39 Yeah. A lot of people, you know, questioning was, oh, is that a photograph or, yeah, one, one of those,
Speaker 3 00:15:44 When you get that kind of detail on a piece like that, if you take it with a, you know, if you look at it from any of our pictures that we featured on any of our socials on it from having that up. Yeah. You can't tell if it's a photograph, if, you know, if you're not like right up close seeing the texture of the paints and everything, which I think is always a great, a great, uh, way of showing how good and talented that artist is. Yep. You know, if you have to stop and go wait a second. Yep. No, that is a, yeah. That's a painting, you know, it's always a, it's always a good, a good nod, you know? Yeah. That you're doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 00:16:14 Yeah. So she, yeah, she had a piece. I thought Dawn's piece was also very,
Speaker 3 00:16:17 Uh, Dawn's very nice.
Speaker 2 00:16:18 I like her. I very creative, um, you know, on, you know, on
Speaker 3 00:16:21 The, on the page. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:16:22 Yeah. I think that, that one, you know, I think that one got overlooked, you know, I, I, I think that, uh, you
Speaker 3 00:16:28 Know, well, I mean it's a smaller piece, but I mean, I, I still think if you go up and you take a takes time to look at it and, and read through what it is and see what the imagery is on it. Yeah. It's, it's a great piece. Yeah. Um, having it floated like the way it is with the rough and edge is and everything. Yep. I always love that. Look, it just gives it so much more of an original design versus, you know, you can't mistake it for a print. It's not a, it's not something you can go to art.com and get for $10 offline. It's definitely something somebody made. And I was like that kind of style piece myself, more than yep. You
Speaker 2 00:16:58 Know? Yeah. She framed it really well,
Speaker 3 00:16:59 So yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 00:17:00 Yep. So we were, uh, the frame center was well represented seven, uh, I think seven. Yeah. CLO clads piece. Yep. In his 7 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, yeah. Seven pieces from the frame center staff. Mm-hmm <affirmative> and I want to say they, I mean, I'm proud to say that. I think that they are all very, uh, you know, kind of some of the better pieces. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:17:23 Well, I mean, framing
Speaker 2 00:17:25 Wise, maybe I shouldn't say better pieces, but yeah.
Speaker 3 00:17:27 Well, well put together pieces. Yeah. Because again, we have to deal with it on a daily basis. We know what we want to bring a piece out now, not saying that, you know, each person who has one entry didn't have asked the opinions of others that worked with them. I know, I know several times I'll get three or four pieces on a table for one of my PE and I'm like, I cannot make a decision. I go and get, you know, Tanya or Dina or somebody Dawn have him come out. And like, what's your first impression? Which one goes, you know, do you think completes the piece? And sometimes it's one, I'm not even thinking they'll go and grab something else off the wall. Again, everyone's got a different look on how something should be. And, and then sometimes you get pigeonholed into a certain idea of how something should look.
Speaker 3 00:18:09 And the other thing is some of these new people that came in and put pieces up, they've never done this before. So they did. And something simple, they went, you know, simple blacks or basic frame. Yeah. And again, it looks more finished and done once frame is on it and gives it that final look, but maybe there was something else they could enhance it. And that's what we're here for. You know, we're here to like, oh, well, did you discuss this option? Did you look at this? Yeah. And that's, that's the main thing. I think that's good. You know, about being here,
Speaker 2 00:18:35 Christine, uh, de Lorenzo's piece, one of the ones. Yeah. One of the, the sold pieces. Yep. Um, I thought that that one was actually, um, you know, it's framed very simply, but if you, if you step back or step closer, I guess, and take a look it's, you know, it's like a very subtle it's like that dark brown mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know, that kind of reads almost like a black, but it really pulls
Speaker 3 00:18:58 Color in the wrong lighting. Yeah. Would look too super dark, but in the right setup, it looks as color matching. It's
Speaker 2 00:19:02 Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, but someone that comes in and they're like, oh, I just want a simple black for, you know, mm-hmm, <affirmative>, it's like, oh, you just change to that deep brown. Yep. And it's you get a, you know, not quite as stark, but it's like a, you know, such a perfect, uh, frame for that one.
Speaker 3 00:19:17 Just a little bit of a, a change to tilt it more towards the artwork itself.
Speaker 2 00:19:21 All right. So you, you, I mean, I got a favorite, I thought Kelly Russo's piece was, you know, that's more like my, my style, not a, you know, mm-hmm, <affirmative>, uh, I, I think that that one was great, you know, very AB you know, some abstract sh shots, um, you know, she let us actually take it out. We took it out with your piece for some, uh, to be yeah. For a photo shoot, get some stuff in, in home.
Speaker 3 00:19:43 Yeah. Some staging to get it, you know, to more stuff for those periodicals later on that
Speaker 2 00:19:48 Get you, you never know that's what we're building the inventory. Um, but yeah, I, her piece was my favorite, another one in a floater frame, uh, natural floater frame, but that one, you know, that one spoke to me. I don't know. You have a favorite in there. Yours was also up there, guy
Speaker 3 00:20:05 Whole. Thank you. Thank you. No, <laugh> well, that's the thing there's so many up to, and there there's different styles that I like, you know, like I said, Joe's really catches me just because of that bold red frame on there now, is there anything I could have in my home? Probably not, but they catches my eye when I'm looking at it on the wall featured with everything else. Um, I always like Kay's pieces, you know, K coppers. Yep. Um, you know, the, the fine details she can get with, you know, what she does, which
Speaker 2 00:20:32 Piece does she have?
Speaker 3 00:20:33 She has the little, um, oh, what did we call? It was, uh, Eastern whip per will is what it's called. Yeah. It's a little owl it on a, on a, a twig out there. It's got like that nice soft green kind of like watercolors background, but the frame she used on that, that one again pulls from the color of the birds, that industrial brown with the silver running through it. And it definitely reflects coloration that's in, in the piece to me, I have an appreciated for someone who can do that fine detail because I can't, yeah.
Speaker 2 00:21:01 <laugh>
Speaker 3 00:21:02 As much as I would love to do hyper hyper realistic, you know, images, I'm not good at that kind of stuff. And I know it, I can do some basic drawings and things along those lines, but that's why I tend to lean more towards my washes in my watercolors or if my abstract pores, because I can still get the same satisfaction out of the color that, that I can't get out of the fine detail, but I always will have an appreciation for fine detail. Mm-hmm <affirmative> um, in a piece like that. So Kay's case is one of my favorites up there.
Speaker 2 00:21:29 Yeah. I also, you know, I think I have a, you know, I, I on brag, but you know, I mean, I was throwing up some sketches last night. Elizabeth was amazed. She was like, what? We were working on the website. I know where
Speaker 3 00:21:40 Was your piece? We
Speaker 2 00:21:41 Didn't get you anything for you for I'm in retirement still I'm, you know, maybe next year handover day I'll, you know, I'll come out of retirement, but you know,
Speaker 3 00:21:50 Don't call it a comeback. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:21:52 <laugh>, we'll see. Yeah. We'll see, you know, if I go into retirement for a few years and, you know, come back, it'll just be, you come back that much better. You
Speaker 3 00:22:00 Know, there you go. There you go.
Speaker 2 00:22:02 Um, but yeah, who knows maybe, maybe next year, I'll, I'll try to get back into it. It
Speaker 3 00:22:06 Is inspired from this season.
Speaker 2 00:22:07 I, I am inspired, I'm inspired seeing everybody put, uh, put some pieces in and, you know, I feel a little left out that I don't have a piece up here, but you know, there's always next year. Yeah. And, uh, you know, I don't wanna rush it and just no, put in a piece that I'm not, uh, you know, happy with or, you know, want to, uh, put my name on, but, um, you know, let me, what else did we want to touch on there? Oh, Sean. Yeah. So the
Speaker 3 00:22:37 Sean's yeah,
Speaker 2 00:22:39 Sean was the judge, um, you know, you know, the, uh, somewhat of a local photography celebrity, mm-hmm <affirmative>
Speaker 3 00:22:48 That we've had on a previous <laugh> interview that I'm gonna have to yep. Get edited and put that one out for, uh, for everyone to listen to. Cuz he, he talked about a, a great many things that day on yeah. Everything from some basic tips. I think that would make people's lives a little bit easier if they go to a,
Speaker 2 00:23:04 Yeah. I think that, uh, Sean would be a great addition named having them sit in on, on a regular basis I think
Speaker 3 00:23:10 Would be great. I'd like to have him a couple times, cuz again, there's still things I'd like to talk to him about that. I don't know. That would help me even just in the basic stuff,
Speaker 2 00:23:17 You know? Yeah. A lot of interesting stuff about him, um, in that interview and yeah, I think that people will be interested to hear that mm-hmm <affirmative> maybe learn a little bit about photography, learn a little bit about, uh, you know, explanations on certain terms and you know, the protocols are the, the right things to do when, you know, uploading photographs. I think he has a lot, uh, that he brings to the table as far as education and yes, he's kind of got an interesting story too. Um, you know, Andy's a great photographer. He, you know, his, he has two pieces out there, um, as the judge to show, you know, show off
Speaker 3 00:23:53 On. Yeah. His other one is the stairwell
Speaker 2 00:23:54 Front stairwell is great.
Speaker 3 00:23:55 Yeah. That one, I wasn't, I don't recognize that as his, like I recognize the, the black and white by the barn door, but then I was going around and reviewing everybody's things and I hadn't seen that one come in when all this stuff was being dropped off for the show and I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 2 00:24:09 Yeah, the black and white. I wonder if that's like, that's probably light you think
Speaker 3 00:24:14 Possibly I haven't really, I didn't really take
Speaker 2 00:24:16 You haven't you haven't uh,
Speaker 3 00:24:17 I was more admiring an overall than trying to identify the actual lighthouse itself.
Speaker 2 00:24:20 Yeah, yeah, no, it's a great piece. And I, but I, I like the other one better of his, you know, the, you know, the close of the face car. No, that car trying to throw and past it on, come on, come on. Uh, no, but the close up of the, of that the woman's face coming out of like the, the woods, that kind,
Speaker 3 00:24:38 There's a lot of depth in that one.
Speaker 2 00:24:39 Yeah. It's great. And great colors. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, you know, he can work in both color and black and white.
Speaker 3 00:24:44 Well, I, you get a nice soft quality with this black and white and then you've got that bold and in depth, you know, color close up, which I think is great that you can do both. Yeah. So that again, that makes me more apt to trust him on anything that I'd have to bring him in the future. And he's actually look, he's gonna help me shoot some of my pieces so that I have a digital archive of yeah. Well my, once they go, you know? Yep. Um,
Speaker 2 00:25:07 Yeah, cause the goal is to sell 'em right. Not
Speaker 3 00:25:09 Well, other than just having them hang in the hallway at home, you know, it's, it's, it's nice to, it would be nice to be able to, you know yeah. Send out the, uh, the amount of excess at home <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:25:19 Yeah. I mean, speaking of partnerships to, I think we have a great partnership with Sean mm-hmm <affirmative> and uh, you know, I think having him on having him jump in, uh, with us and, you know, discussing things, he's a wealth of knowledge. And I think that, uh, you know, people will get a, you know, people are gonna like that interview. I think that, you know, learn a little bit about him, his background. Yeah. And, uh, you know, we'll probably interlay some of his photographs cause we have that other photograph of his downstairs, the, the front of the car, which is one of my favorites,
Speaker 3 00:25:50 Which is, and that's a great story about that one. Everyone's like everyone who comes in always asks me is like, oh, is that shot in this studio? Was that shot with, did you black cloth that tires? And I'm like, no, look at the headlights. And they're like, why what's the headlights? I'm like, he can see it's an outdoor outdoor shot. He was able to manipulate that photo enough to make it look like it is just hovering in. Mid-air like sitting in a black studio. It is fantastic, you
Speaker 2 00:26:12 Know? Yeah. That's one of my favorites, which is why it's here. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:26:15 <laugh> so
Speaker 2 00:26:16 It's a little pit stop. See if it sells before it goes back to my house,
Speaker 3 00:26:20 <laugh> like I said, it's a great, it's a great piece. And it's definitely an attention getter. Yep. You know? Um, which I think is always, you know, I mean, regardless of the size of the piece, just the composition of it is, is, is unique.
Speaker 2 00:26:34 Well, we do got the, we have the, uh, a great interview to play. Uh, you know, mm-hmm, <affirmative>, uh, you know, Claude and Nolan, you know, two of the, the prize winning photographers,
Speaker 3 00:26:46 Both, like I said, have a great story about, you know, why they do it and you know, where they've come from on it. Which I think is interesting. Like I said, not just seeing a picture on the wall is great, but once you hear about how they did it, why they did it, where they did it, always, I think adds a little more to a piece, you know? So that there's a story behind it. Cuz then if you ever have one of these pieces at your house and you, somebody asks a question and go, I don't just a picture I liked. Yeah, no, you can actually discuss with them what, what it is. And I always find that buying local or shopping local through local artists, I always find has a little bit more meaning to it behind it than just, like I said, finding an image, nothing wrong with finding image you like online and art style you like, but if you can know the artists get to know them, see them have met them. I think it means a little bit more.
Speaker 2 00:27:30 Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 00:27:31 Like Tim, Tim Burke, you know? Yeah. I've known him for God years. Like he started coming to see me when I worked at another store for buying his paint supplies and it, uh, it's been, you know, I lost track of him for a few years after I left there and then came over here. And then all of a sudden he started showing up here and getting his pieces and just the change he went through from that to now the depth of his detail and his size, he's got things locked to a certain size. So he always paints in a certain size or a certain,
Speaker 2 00:28:02 Yeah, Tim's a great color. Great, great guy. Yeah. Interesting guy. It is, you know, his work is definitely, um, you know, the journey. Yeah. Like he, you know, it's interesting to watch people's, uh, progressions and he's done it. He's kind of a Renaissance man too. Right. He's got, you know, painter, uh, he's written a couple books. I don't know. Does he sing?
Speaker 3 00:28:21 I don't know. Well, you,
Speaker 2 00:28:23 What he do, what we actually, you know, we had him, he got a chance to sit down with us briefly before he had to go get his, uh, award, but
Speaker 3 00:28:30 Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:28:30 So, um, but I think that, I think his, you know, we might have a clip or, you know, clip
Speaker 3 00:28:35 From that. Yeah. Got it. Or so audio, I can save that just
Speaker 2 00:28:37 To, but you know, I think we look forward to sitting down with him down the road. Oh yeah. Cause I think he'd love to love to come in and brag about his, uh, his hand over days. Uh, you
Speaker 3 00:28:47 Know, his
Speaker 2 00:28:47 Victory. Yeah. Victory. Yeah. I know he was very excited and, you know, exciting to, you know yeah. Exciting to see other people's excitement about this sort of thing.
Speaker 3 00:28:56 So he's mentioned before he goes, I've taken many prizes in my mind. He goes, but this is the first one, actually I have paper to prove it.
Speaker 2 00:29:01 So I think it's documentation,
Speaker 3 00:29:04 Documentation, and, and, and the crowd to prove it was their witnesses.
Speaker 2 00:29:08 <laugh> yeah. Well, I mean, awesome. I think, uh, we wanna kick it over to the interview or
Speaker 3 00:29:15 Yeah, we can take it from there. Here we go. Our interview with Tom Claude, Nolan, Eastman, and a quick word from Tim Burke.
Speaker 2 00:29:22 All right. Awesome. So we got Claude is in Nolan have decided to, you know, pop in on us, say hello. Uh, we have a couple award winners. Um, so
Speaker 5 00:29:33 Hello. Hello. Hello. This is nice. Claude. I Claude in the
Speaker 2 00:29:36 House. Nice Nolan been here. What's up. Nice. Well, glad you guys can stop in for us. Yeah. Say hello. You guys wanna tell us a little bit about your pieces. Maybe tell us, uh, about what prides you on.
Speaker 6 00:29:46 Well, I like to let, Loland go first because he's definitely won first place and I want to give him the spotlight first.
Speaker 7 00:29:53 <laugh> all right. So I had the surfer, it was a drone photo of a surfer that I shot at PEY beach instuit and it was actually a fun story about that photo is nobody ever saw that guy in the water? No one we still to this day don't know who it was. It was about a year and a half ago. So we called him to the ghost that day. And it's been pretty unique to everyone since I took that. So that's the story behind it. Nice
Speaker 3 00:30:17 Rumor. Is you still surfing out there?
Speaker 2 00:30:18 So yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully you survived. <laugh> hopefully,
Speaker 6 00:30:24 No, I'm gonna share a little about my piece. My piece is called one year and it's very vibrant. The reason why both, uh, one year and I are very energetic people and we're very extra sometimes, so it's very pink vibrant out there. Um, and I love it.
Speaker 2 00:30:40 Nice. Yeah. Both very nice pieces,
Speaker 6 00:30:44 But I just definitely wanna say thank you frame center. Thank you, Dave. Thank you Hanover as a whole community for supporting local artists. And I'll be honest. I'm not even from I'm from Hanover, but um, thank you for supporting wor artist mass art artist, college based artist. I really appreciate, um, putting and accepting my piece into Hanover there.
Speaker 3 00:31:06 Yeah. You work around here mean that, that counts. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:31:08 That's that makes
Speaker 6 00:31:09 You local, you know? Well, yeah, but like sometimes, you know, you think you won't get accepted or because like you're part of the, the workspace. It can, you know, can be biased, but then like you, well,
Speaker 3 00:31:20 That's just how accepting we are.
Speaker 6 00:31:22 Right. Yeah. I know. And that's what I wanted to share because I, you know, I take a look at my email and then I'm like, oh, shoot second place. And I'm like, oh shoot. I never win anything. So like, I, I really wanna say from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
Speaker 2 00:31:34 Well, I'm glad to, uh, you know, have your work here. I'm glad to, you know, I think you're, you know, I think this is a nice community art show. Like it'll brings a lot of the community together and you know, you're certainly a part of that community club. Yeah. How about, thank you. How about you knowing you do a lot like mainly drone photography or I know
Speaker 7 00:31:52 I do a little bit of everything. I do a lot of portrait, a lot of landscape. Um, I do a lot of brand work, but my main thing is car photography. I do quite a bit of that. Um, I do a lot of drone work as well, so
Speaker 3 00:32:04 Nice. Yeah. It's interesting. I like the drone work. I haven't had too many entries like that before.
Speaker 7 00:32:08 Thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 00:32:09 Yeah. When, uh, yeah, maybe once we get this power, this building power wash, we can talk about getting a drone drone, definitely getting some drone shots around out here. That would be kind of cool. That'd
Speaker 7 00:32:19 Be awesome. Overhead
Speaker 3 00:32:19 Landscaping. Yeah.
Speaker 6 00:32:20 That'd be awesome.
Speaker 2 00:32:22 Over the definitely
Speaker 6 00:32:23 Help cause oh, definit gonna get a drone. So I might
Speaker 7 00:32:26 Definitely I'm the, I'm the man you can talk to.
Speaker 3 00:32:28 Perfect. He talks about the landscape and when he talks, he wants overhead shots of him shooting pucks out.
Speaker 6 00:32:34 I think so
Speaker 2 00:32:35 You can, I think we can line that up. That's but uh, so you do like a lot of drone stuff.
Speaker 7 00:32:41 Yeah. I, I do
Speaker 2 00:32:41 Tell me a little bit about that. Cause I, you know, I know one guy who does like sums stuff with drones, but he doesn't, you know, I I've asked him to, to uh, come out and he'd never actually followed through <laugh>
Speaker 7 00:32:54 So, um, I just have a Maverick D G Maverick air too. It's just like basic beginner Jerone. Um, it's 48 megapixels. So it's like really good photo quality. Um, I usually fly, I do a lot of coastal work and then I've done like just basic stuff. I mean, I got into flying like a year and a half ago. I do. I mean, I do everything in the air. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. I've I actually just started doing car photography with the drone and that really actually interesting. It's a lot fun red shot of all the cars lined. Cause you don't, you don't see many, uh, car photographers do that with the drone. Right.
Speaker 3 00:33:29 Usually head on shot. Yeah.
Speaker 7 00:33:31 Side profile, always the basic angles. I like switching it up. Yeah. That's that's a great idea. Yeah.
Speaker 6 00:33:36 What's your Instagram?
Speaker 7 00:33:37 Uh, my Instagram for cars is at Northern auto with an underscore at the end and that's where I post all my car work, so. Oh,
Speaker 3 00:33:45 It'd be good. Take a look at that.
Speaker 7 00:33:46 Yeah, definitely. Awesome. Thank you. Mm-hmm <affirmative>
Speaker 2 00:33:48 What do, uh, what would he, what would a commission video of a, of a building like the frame center? Boy,
Speaker 7 00:33:55 I don't know. I'd hook you guys up at the frame
Speaker 2 00:33:57 Center free, free. We would work on a nice trade, a couple frames for that
Speaker 7 00:34:01 Video. Oh, that sounds a good deal to me.
Speaker 2 00:34:03 Yeah. I like it. I like, yeah. I think that, uh, I think we definitely need that. That'd
Speaker 3 00:34:07 Be cool idea. Yeah. We just cleared all that trees away now. So you got plenty of, uh,
Speaker 7 00:34:10 Space to see. Definitely
Speaker 2 00:34:12 Awesome. Uh, I, I know, I know your story Claude, but is there anything you want to tell the, uh, tell a little bit more,
Speaker 6 00:34:19 Or I just wanna say like keep supporting understanding and, um, appreciating and learning and trying to really understand the black experience. And that doesn't mean by like supporting black lives matter, but really just taking your time to read or like, um, promote people of color who are artists and like really trying to understand, not only my own family's story, but stories of others and that's how Don Claude came to be. Mm-hmm <affirmative> um, and the publication of JMO and JMO really stands from my home dialect, um, as a Ghana native, um, there's different languages that, um, spoken, however, the most common one is tree. Um, but the God language is one of the other languages that is dying out. And since my community blends in or simulates really well of other communities are native language gets lost. And that's how I'm trying to reclaim it back by bringing into the publication with a mix of editorial fashion and storytelling in a fine art way. Um, shout out to Mattar for, um, helping me, um, brush out and really narrow down my storytelling and narrative. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:35:39 That's a great way to talk about it. Have a visual representation of, like you said, your culture and language is that's a great way to catch people's attention, that painting or that photo you took out there that definitely grabs your attention. Thank you.
Speaker 6 00:35:50 Yeah. Cause you know, I, beside like when I start talking, I got like all like beside that I'm very vibrant and I'm very, um, I call myself like a big child. Um <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:36:02 You
Speaker 6 00:36:02 Can see that, but you know, I just love having fun and you know, smiling, always having a good time.
Speaker 3 00:36:08 Yeah. Another wrong with having a passion for your art man, nothing wrong at all.
Speaker 2 00:36:11 No, that's what it's all about. That's what we're trying to do here. Have fun.
Speaker 6 00:36:13 Exactly.
Speaker 2 00:36:15 And you know, and sell some frames <laugh> we can do always gotta do business.
Speaker 6 00:36:20 Yes,
Speaker 2 00:36:20 Yes. Shoot some hockey parks,
Speaker 8 00:36:22 You know,
Speaker 2 00:36:23 Lots of fun stuff. Awesome. Well, awesome. Thanks for stopping buy, you know, saying hi, getting on this podcast.
Speaker 6 00:36:29 Of course we'll definitely be back for sure.
Speaker 2 00:36:32 And we'll definitely connect as far as, uh, getting a drone video of the frame center. I think that that gives
Speaker 3 00:36:39 Absolutely a little detail on that. When we do the shots, we have a little, definitely get another, you know, little get together and yeah,
Speaker 2 00:36:45 I
Speaker 3 00:36:45 Talk more about it in depth, cuz I have more questions about it. Definitely myself so cool
Speaker 2 00:36:49 Way,
Speaker 3 00:36:49 You know, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 00:36:51 And uh, yeah, we just need a power Washington, this building and then I think we'll be ready for that type of,
Speaker 6 00:36:56 Well, I'm gonna go back to work. So I'm out, Don Claude is out. Take care, enjoy
Speaker 2 00:37:01 Public. Thank
Speaker 3 00:37:02 You. Thank you guys for having me. No one. Thanks very much, man. Thank
Speaker 2 00:37:04 You. All right, so we got another, we got another award winner. Yeah. Uh, was it first for painting? Is that
Speaker 8 00:37:11 Uh, yes. I've uh, in my mind I've won a lot of other rewards, but uh, this is the first publicly recognized one. Well
Speaker 2 00:37:20 We're excited to have Tim Burke. Yeah. And we're,
Speaker 3 00:37:23 You know, me and Tim go way back. We do. Yeah. We started at AC Moore. You came over and used to buy all his supplies when he first started painting with me.
Speaker 8 00:37:30 Yeah. Yeah. Scott was my, uh, motivator. Yeah. And you know, I look back now at some of the paintings I brought in there that he was so, uh, LA auditor of when I say, oh my God, I can't believe he
Speaker 3 00:37:43 Actually. But look at the progression you made from where you started to where you, I could see it coming from what you did. So no, that's great to keep that relationship going after all this time. It
Speaker 2 00:37:51 Has, did you get to see Scott's work too?
Speaker 8 00:37:53 I did not. Is it out there?
Speaker 2 00:37:55 Actually you can see, you can kind of catch catch
Speaker 3 00:37:58 Here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:37:58 Said, but he is, he is on the wall near your near yours.
Speaker 3 00:38:02 No, no, not as detailed as yours. Right. It's a little more abstract, but uh, you know, it's just
Speaker 8 00:38:07 I'm my wife has given me the call here. Think
Speaker 2 00:38:10 You're starting to oh,
Speaker 3 00:38:12 Awards. Well,
Speaker 2 00:38:13 Yeah, we'll get you back. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 00:38:15 Thank you guys so much. Appreciate
Speaker 3 00:38:17 It. No problem, Tim. Thanks. Okay. We're back.
Speaker 2 00:38:22 Well, both of those guys are great. I think they're both super talented guys. Um, you know, I love having Claude here, uh, you know, working with him. He's amazing and he's a super talented photographer as well. And you know, I think his work speaks to that. Uh, Nolan is a great guy, you know, that was the first time I had met him.
Speaker 3 00:38:42 Yeah. I hadn't met him before that.
Speaker 2 00:38:43 And uh, I look forward to doing some stuff with him in the future. Um, I, you know, like I said, once we get this building power washed mm-hmm <affirmative> um, I think a drone video is gonna be awesome. Yeah. Hopefully we can talk to him about getting a drone video inside. I know
Speaker 3 00:38:57 It'd be cool to do a pass through the whole building. I think that would be kinda like just throw the downstairs through the upstairs and just kind of do a circle around, be an interesting shot, nonetheless, you know, and then out the window down to the parking lot, maybe out to the back.
Speaker 2 00:39:08 Yeah. I think it'll be fun. I think a lot of fun. And so I think that was great. And if we don't, uh, you know, if Nolan doesn't do the drone video, maybe we'll, you know, maybe he will come across some other drone photographers <laugh> who knows, you know, I'm sure
Speaker 3 00:39:22 There'd be somebody to stand behind the net and take a picture of you while you're taking the shots. Instead of having to worry about <laugh>
Speaker 2 00:39:27 Drone videos of people shooting cock P is, you know, I think of the, the next big
Speaker 3 00:39:31 Thing.
Speaker 2 00:39:31 Yeah. Big thing to come. Um, yeah. I mean, speaking of big things to come, new blog was up too. Oh yeah. Uh, the blog frame center blog, you know, we'll start shamelessly promote the frame center here. Uh, since it is the frame center podcast, the frame center blog. We're gonna try to put that out. Maybe, you know, once a month for now, uh, a lot of subjects, a lot of things in the works, uh, you know, there's a blog up about appointments. I mean, that's great, uh, you know, little history of the frame center blog mm-hmm <affirmative> um, and, and you know, the timely 4th of July flag flame, eh, the timely 4th of July, uh, blog about framing flags and you know, that sort of thing
Speaker 3 00:40:17 And the different variations of the kind that you can have done. Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:40:20 Yeah. I think that the blog will be, uh, you know, hopefully inspiring for some people or, you know, you know, who knows. Yeah, yeah. Quick reads, uh,
Speaker 3 00:40:29 There's nothing wrong with the quick reads. Sometimes those are the best ones. And sometimes, you know, having to not read through 20 pages of dissertation is, is nice. Just having something shortened to the point of what you wanted to focus on, I think is a great way to just bring everything across
Speaker 2 00:40:42 Yeah. Blogs available on the website. Uh, I think there'll be more to come in
Speaker 3 00:40:46 And what's the website,
Speaker 2 00:40:47 Uh, Frank center.com. There we
Speaker 3 00:40:49 Go. We gotta plug it.
Speaker 2 00:40:49 Yeah. France center.com under, I think it's under resources, but you know,
Speaker 3 00:40:56 Who knows the blog is a resource and as long as some of our other videos and other howtos are on there as well, which are also very helpful.
Speaker 2 00:41:03 Well, you know, maybe we'll touch more about the blog. Maybe we'll have another blog out by the time episode on the next one comes out. Yeah. But maybe episode two is gonna be the interview with Sean. Right.
Speaker 3 00:41:13 That would be nice. I mean, again, he's easy to get a hold of cuz he's just down the street. Yeah. Which makes it really nice.
Speaker 2 00:41:19 I think it's an interesting, uh, interesting video with, uh, interesting audio with Sean. Uh, so hopefully that's, uh, that'll be coming up. I,
Speaker 3 00:41:27 He is out soon enough. Maybe we get some people to ask some questions of what they'd like him to talk about. Yeah. And that would be nice, you know, just have a little viewer feedback on what they'd like to hear from a professional photographer yep. On what they should do to make their pieces and the best possible. And
Speaker 2 00:41:43 Yeah. And you know, people can give all sorts of feedback about the frame center podcast. Mm-hmm <affirmative> they can tell us what they want to hear. You know? I mean, I'm sure people have, want to hear our opinions on things as well. You know? Alright. Well, Hey, listen. This is Ben, uh, fun talking with you, Scott mm-hmm <affirmative> I always enjoy sitting down talk, having conversations with you talking to art and who knows what we're gonna be talking about next?
Speaker 3 00:42:08 I don't know. We'll see who we can line up.
Speaker 2 00:42:10 Yep. All right.
Speaker 9 00:42:25 See ya. See ya.
