Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:03 The
Speaker 2 00:00:23 All right. This week we have something pretty interesting. Uh, we did a live interview with, uh, Jody Regan at her show in Hingham. Um, I thought this was, uh, this was, uh, something that we had discussed on the podcast, possibly doing, getting the stories behind the artwork. Um, I thought it was really interesting. I hope you think the same. Uh, we are hoping to do some more interviews like this in the future. Let us know what
Speaker 3 00:00:48 You think. Oh, there's a flag and there's
Speaker 4 00:00:50 Flags. Yep. To see if there's a flag on the swan boat. Swan boat's in the, yeah. The public garden of Surprise Island one hasn't gone yet. Everyone loves the public garden.
Speaker 3 00:01:00 I love the public ordinary. They, um, it's just, well, it's just fun to sit in Boston and draw things.
Speaker 4 00:01:05 Yep. Yeah. No, I particularly like the buildings that, like the line drawings on the buildings I think is really like, interesting. I like the windows. I just like, you know, I really like that one. And there's another one too, that one. And there's one down there. And I, I don't know, maybe it's like the city scenes or something like
Speaker 3 00:01:25 That, that I drugs or I love the city, you know? So through this whole five years doing this, what I've discovered is I love being in the city, drawing all the busyness. And when you have something like this, you can edit how many win, what, you know, where am I going with windows? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you can be as detailed as you want. Yep. So anytime you draw, you might have, or paint, you might have a sense of what's the density that I'm after? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, so, you know, I'm moving along and I then at some point I decide that's where I like it. That's where I'm comfortable with it. Same with people in the city. Um,
Speaker 4 00:01:55 What is now we, we have the, the people board. And then this board is the
Speaker 3 00:02:00 Marine board, Marine board, marine and water ish board. And there's a mis miscellaneous sport at there, mis <laugh>. So these are just scenes that have to do with water. Yeah. So what a place I love to be. I don't know how many, um, things I have in here from it, but if you sit in Tuit Harbor, like in the back of Lucky Fin, the coffee shop, they have um, you know, little bench in the back. Yep. And you can sit out there. I don't remember, I don't know if I drew these from there or from the other side, cuz they're facing out. Yep. And you wouldn't see them. So just to, I mean, I even have some more drawings I've done completely into the rigging. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, so fascinating. Like the, the industry of it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then these are both on, actually these three are up on Monhegan. That's Monhegan. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:02:52 Flag
Speaker 3 00:02:53 <laugh>. <laugh>. So in my book, I had a note that I was sitting down by the water on the rocks. Yeah. And I, I painted both of these on the same day from the same spot. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I just went at it a completely different way. So this is looking Southwest. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, there's the mainland way over there. And this one, I'm just looking north back up to the village. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Uh, I just had completely different, this one's all watercolor. I left, you know, left the whites there, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I didn't use any gush in there, so I left the whites to preserve them for the froth.
Speaker 4 00:03:23 Yep.
Speaker 3 00:03:24 But they look completely different, but they're from exactly the same spot.
Speaker 4 00:03:28 Yeah. Different pallet. Right. Yep.
Speaker 3 00:03:31 And then I love, um, the big tank at the aquarium. Yep. So
Speaker 4 00:03:35 Is that what those ones are from?
Speaker 3 00:03:36 They are. So there's a live cam of that tank. Yep. And you can just have it on. I used to have it on in my classroom while the kids were working. Yep. I would just run that silently. And those are some screen captures I got out of there.
Speaker 4 00:03:48 Another the fish tank.
Speaker 3 00:03:49 Yeah. Cause Myrtle's so awesome. And you, if you've been there, you know, you can go all the way up to the top of the big tank mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the light comes down and just hits her back. So I can tell by the light on her back that she's close to the top there and not farther down. Cuz the light doesn't filter that far down. Friend of mine, she's sitting here drawing. That's her thing. Uh, it's so, yeah.
Speaker 4 00:04:13 It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 00:04:14 Oh, isn't that amazing in there? Yeah. Yeah. It's, so that one's
Speaker 4 00:04:17 Already sold too. That red dot on that one?
Speaker 3 00:04:19 Yes. That's nice. Everywhere you go in there. So you, um, what's nice around the courtyard is under these arches and you can, there's benches, you know, along the side. So you can sit on those benches and nobody sees you mm-hmm. <affirmative> and you're just hanging out, drawing everything. This is the room up here, uh, at the end of the courtyard where mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But, um, the paintings were stolen. Yep. And so everybody goes to that room and then they come out on the balcony. So if you want people, and it's not, I that's, this is a hybridization of people that showed up. Yes. Like most of my people are, there's a person, there's another person. So you just make something up from them.
Speaker 4 00:04:59 Yeah. That's cool. Did did most people re recognize it as the gunner?
Speaker 3 00:05:02 They did, but I had been in Mexico last February, so people thought it might be in Mexico. Cuz there's that same terracotta feeling. Yeah. Um, you know, which I really like. So Yeah. I'm gonna go, um, I'm gonna go back there soon. Yeah. I hadn't been in a long time.
Speaker 4 00:05:18 Yeah, I'm sure that yeah. Just when you just sit and draw in there, that must be Yeah. There's plenty of sub Yeah. Subject
Speaker 3 00:05:25 Matter. Well, it's so satisfying. Empty frames. And that's something I learned about doing all this too, is everywhere I am. Yep. There's, um, something beautiful mm-hmm. <affirmative> and, uh, it doesn't matter sitting in a parking lot Yep. Anywhere. There's just always something that's really eye-catching, uh, in it makes her appreciate the world.
Speaker 4 00:05:44 Well that's about being present, right? Like you just, it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:05:47 And then you, um, you can disappear. Even though I'm six feet tall, I have the skill of being invisible. <laugh> sometimes it's not my favorite thing. Yeah. But it's like a superpower. And um, sometimes it is my favorite thing so I can just kind of sit mm-hmm. <affirmative> and nobody will notice me. Yeah. And I can take everything in, which
Speaker 4 00:06:06 Is Yeah. They don't get nervous that why is she here? She
Speaker 3 00:06:08 Dragged me sometimes in a restaurant or something. Yeah, they do. And then as soon as they come by and they see I'm not making a portrait of them, everybody's fine. Yeah. Um, <laugh>, I got a tip from some urban sketcher online where she, so let's say she's sitting in a coffee shop or a pub or a wherever. She said, if you're gonna draw the people in there, you should always pick the ones where their glass is full because they're staying. Yeah. If you pick somebody who's that's good says empty, they're not sticking around that long, potentially, you know, and I thought that's simple thinking, but it's a great idea. And this is Newbury Street. We were, um, we went in in the evening one time. Yeah. And so this is their Shake Shack on Newbury Street. We were, I was sitting on a little, not on the curb on the street mm-hmm. <affirmative>. They had a little tiny foot high wall. And I was just sitting there waiting for someone to call. There's their little shake shack.
Speaker 4 00:06:56 So that one. So something like that. Is that something you've sketched out and then you then, then you transferred into a
Speaker 3 00:07:03 Painting? No, I drew it there. So there's ink under there. And then when I got also all my draw, the top of the s and I didn't use a photo, I don't use something depending on how thick washe is.
Speaker 4 00:07:14 So there's drawing and draw underneath that, that like pen, like a, like a stature that is strong of a,
Speaker 3 00:07:22 It's as strong as that.
Speaker 4 00:07:23 It's just you going also like a little bit further. Cause I love how the pen shows through on
Speaker 3 00:07:28 A lot of them. Yeah. And I just saw the gush will go
Speaker 4 00:07:31 Right over, right over. So with the gush, like, is, can that be like, like obviously watercolor is like, you know, thinner, can gush be watered down and that's how you apply it? Or is that a, uh, is it always like the consistency of it? Like always heavier?
Speaker 3 00:07:48 Uh, it's not always heavier. Urines fact, a lot of people paint, uh, with it very thin in layers.
Speaker 4 00:07:54 Yeah. Cause when I figure gush I think are like watercolors. But this feels like almost like more like, like acrylic.
Speaker 3 00:08:00 Yeah. Well it's kind of my thing. Like I have, cause I was an oil painter and I still am an oil painter, I pick it out a little bit thicker. So some of this is quite thick. Yeah. Um, you don't want to get it too thick. I did that one time and it cracked Yeah. Six months down the road. But, um, this is water-based squash. So if I layer like, um, like I layered here mm-hmm. <affirmative> or I've done a little bit of in there, so you water it down and you make a layer mm-hmm. <affirmative> that will reactivate what's under mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So you just have to be careful with that. Um, there's also acrylic based squash, which I haven't used. Yep. So you can layer it really carefully and you think about transparency and it's gonna mix with what's underneath. Um, there's, I'm just starting to use it and I'm loving it. And then I love it. This is Alwash. Yeah. Um, just some flowers in the side of my yard.
Speaker 4 00:08:49 Yeah. More red dots.
Speaker 3 00:08:51 Oh, well that's nice.
Speaker 4 00:08:52 We get the total of those
Speaker 3 00:08:54 <laugh>. It's pleasant.
Speaker 4 00:08:56 Yeah. I'm, that looks super familiar and I feel like it's the sign that I, that I'm, that I'm, have I seen that
Speaker 3 00:09:03 One? Yeah. This is the, I think it's called the Village Florist. It's in Hingham Square. Hingham Square, okay. So there's the coffee shop, the awnings, and then, um, your, there's those steps just below the historical society. This is, I would say that must be North Street there. Okay. Or South Street. I don't know. The one way piece goes right there.
Speaker 4 00:09:25 All right. And what board do we get here? We got this.
Speaker 3 00:09:28 I don't should, do you
Speaker 4 00:09:29 Guess I'm gonna guess this. It looks like, it looks like a lot of looks, a lot of it looks like bars. No. For this people up
Speaker 3 00:09:36 Top. His churches,
Speaker 4 00:09:37 It's churches, <laugh>,
Speaker 3 00:09:39 <laugh>. So
Speaker 4 00:09:41 The fish market I like, that's one we just rep. What, where's that fish
Speaker 3 00:09:44 Market? That's actually down in Sarasota. So we were down there visiting some friends. I love that. Yeah. Painting. I love it. Just the place. I love him. Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:09:52 He is it that I think he's a, you're drawn to him when you look
Speaker 3 00:09:56 At that one. Yeah. He's so interesting. And he's thinking, you know, I like his posture. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So this is a board of interiors. Yeah. Interiors. Um, although this is one isn't exactly an interior, but Yeah.
Speaker 4 00:10:08 There's intense, the interior of the ci the heart of the city. Right.
Speaker 3 00:10:11 <laugh>. So yeah. So these are, um, you know, here's a North river, the art
Speaker 4 00:10:16 Festival. Yeah. I like that one a lot. That, that, that's another one I'm super drawn
Speaker 3 00:10:19 To. So, you know, your gallery sit over there for a few hours. So I was gallery sitting and uh, it was fun to draw.
Speaker 4 00:10:25 Is that from the festival? Yep. Yeah. That, that one's great. That I love, you know, in the red wall. Like just being so familiar with that space. Um, yeah. And I and, and what do you reme, like how accurate was that to the layout of the Exactly. I think I'm gonna have to buy that one. Cause like I'm assuming that I, I staged from that.
Speaker 3 00:10:45 I'm sure you did. So this is exactly accurate to what was there. Yeah. I mean, people can't tell what their painting was. 20 and I, yeah. So, um, I remember I put up another one inside North River one time and yeah. Mar uh, what's her name? Uh, Gleason, whatever her first name is. What's her, she, I'm sure she gets stuff framed with you. Marsha Gleason. Yep. I love her paintings. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And she does a lot of oil self portraits. Anyway, she's, she saw it on my Instagram. She says there's my painting and her painting was, um, yeah. She could tell. Which was great.
Speaker 4 00:11:17 Yeah. No, that was super cool. I mean just, you know, just the significance of going down there and hanging in that show for like the last,
Speaker 3 00:11:23 I know you do such a good job and this is like a perspective challenge, but I
Speaker 4 00:11:28 Yeah. But it's inter, I, I, I like, I even, you know, even before like I thinking about the fact that it's like that the a show that I was involved, like just that, like that red wall, like the, how it splits, the, you
Speaker 3 00:11:39 Know, it really pulls your eye. Yeah. Uh, when you are outside on the street. So when I was teaching math at the Carter School, everybody also teaches projects. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which, you know, and my, I had an art project, so every year I would bring my kids to the member show usually. Yeah. And they, many of them never been to an art show. Um, so we would talk outside first about how you look at an art show. And then I had clipboards for them and they had to answer a few questions. Which piece do you like better? Why do you like it better than the one next to it? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then they had to draw one and then they had to make a value study in free values Yep. Of the piece that they liked the best. So it was the best field trip. We'd bring lunch, sit in the yard and go in. And, but just to see them should
Speaker 4 00:12:25 Do that for adults too. Get people familiar with buying art. Like Yeah. It's
Speaker 3 00:12:29 Really good idea. And, and they were mesmerized, you know, by, uh, when they looked around we'd explain what the tags meant. You know, that a lot of them are,
Speaker 4 00:12:36 We might have to post that. The, uh, you know what, do you still have the, the lesson plan? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I, I re I mean, I think anything that helps people feel more comfortable and understand why they like certain things, you know? Cause I mean, like to me, that one I'm drawn to just cuz of my connection to North River. Yeah. I mean, it's a great piece too. Well,
Speaker 3 00:12:56 And it pulls you, it's, I mean it pulls you in. I mean, let's go explore,
Speaker 4 00:13:00 But, but it's, you know what I mean? But you know, if I, you know, if I didn't know you and I didn't know, just seeing that piece, I'm, you know, I'd be like, and it's a steal 250 bucks, you know, can't go wrong <laugh>. Um, but like, that's like a, you know, you know, like that's, you know, the connection to that piece is important to me, you know, too. Like, you know, just knowing that red wall and like that, you know, all those things and what a pain in the ass they wear to set up. They are a pain. <laugh>.
Speaker 3 00:13:27 The the worst thing there is not the front wall because it's a standalone, but these
Speaker 4 00:13:33 Flat Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:13:34 As we call them. Yep. I put the nails in to hang all the ribbons on. Yep. It's torture. Yeah. So, alright, let's go back to positive. So a tip when, so for all those out there, if you are taking kids especially, or someone who doesn't look at art, but kids, this works, um, to a show you and they're gonna be impatient. Yeah. You know, you're not, you're there maybe to look at this. So, so you just look at them and you say, see all those paintings are there and you just can say to them, I want you to pick your favorite. Yep. And I want you to come up with three sentences why you like it better than the one on both sides. Yep. And then that engages them. Yep. It gives you five minutes to look around. Five if you're lucky, probably three and a half. Um, but it's a really good question to ask kids and then they really start looking.
Speaker 4 00:14:16 Yeah. Well it forces you to think about it too. Right.
Speaker 3 00:14:18 And they get to say things more than I like it cuz it had a dog. Yeah. You know, they, they have to say more things. Yeah. Which is interesting. This is the pizza place down the street here.
Speaker 4 00:14:28 Okay. Yep. Yeah. Yep. And is that the, is that the, the, uh, the big bakery in uh,
Speaker 3 00:14:38 Or that's five South Main in Cohassett. Okay. Um, so that, I don't know if you've been in that cute little restaurant. It's awesome. They have great food. Um, we use them a lot. I know the family from school. Yep. Um, but during Covid we ordered takeout from them frequently to help them. Yep. Out
Speaker 4 00:14:56 In what restaurant is that one?
Speaker 3 00:14:58 I don't know. This is somewhere near, this was like before a Bruins game. Yeah. <laugh>. There's some pub nearby and I just, I like how I did this. Totally. Yes. But again, I also, I love the design of this piece for some reason. Um, leaving all this negative space where the chairs are. Yep. Um, so I don't know the name of it. It's, we were in the back corner before we went to a brooms game. Yep. A little while back. And then I love the theater district. I have a subscription to Broadway and Boston with my daughter. Yeah. And uh, so we're down there all the time. It's so every time you go, it's so exciting. Yeah. And we go at night, it's inviting.
Speaker 4 00:15:32 Yeah. No, that one feels like, you know, if it feels like you can feel the excitement in that, in that piece. Like you can feel like the, you know, getting ready to go into a
Speaker 3 00:15:41 Show. Yeah. When she got outta college, I said to her, Hey, you know, why don't we do this? Uh, we can, I'll subscribe. You can pay your half of the subscription or you can take me to dinner every time we have the
Speaker 4 00:15:51 Theater. What's the, uh, what's the subscription
Speaker 3 00:15:53 Cost? Uh, it depends on where your seats are.
Speaker 4 00:15:56 Yeah. So it's this like season tickets basically.
Speaker 3 00:15:58 Yeah, it is. And you go to six or eight a year. Yep. And sometimes, and you don't have to go to all of them. I think you can, there's a minimum number you can go to, but we go to everything. Yep. We've seen amazing things that they've done. We're gonna see Hamilton in January Yep. Is coming to Boston. Um, so she opted to bring me to dinner every time, which is good deal. Super nice
Speaker 4 00:16:19 <laugh>. It's a nice thing to do.
Speaker 3 00:16:20 Yeah. It's very
Speaker 4 00:16:21 Nice. That's sold too.
Speaker 3 00:16:24 <laugh>. I told you my family came in on the weekend and took some home. Well, not home. Yeah. Oh, that's another thing about this show come, goes till January 5th. People buying presents would have to take a picture of it and put it in a picture. A beautiful box.
Speaker 4 00:16:38 Well yeah, they need help. We can, we can help 'em with the presentation. I'm trying to come up with something for that at the store. So with last minute gifts and for online things or for some, because we have like, uh, software that, you know, kind of like enables you to like visualize some, how something's gonna look when it's done. So trying to like put a, you know, come
Speaker 3 00:16:59 Up. Plus I have images of everything. Yep. So if that's something that you come up with, I can provide the images for that. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um,
Speaker 4 00:17:06 So you got where you got almost some more nautical.
Speaker 3 00:17:09 Yeah. So these are both sides. These are both, um, off of the back of Lucky Fin. Yep. Right. And um,
Speaker 4 00:17:16 It's not just bars, coffee standard. Just start with coffees in the morning. <laugh> <laugh>. No,
Speaker 3 00:17:23 I'm just, so those books that I have, those oblong books do look like I'm in bars all the time. Which I'm truthfully, I'm not accepted. Anytime you're out to eat. Yeah. You know, why not draw? And I think I tend to eat at pubs more than other places. Yeah. Actually this is not at Lucky Finn. This is over by the Gazebo. Yep. And this is off
Speaker 4 00:17:39 Lucky fin that that feels like, yeah. I don't know if I've seen that boat or, or whatnot. I've been down there, but yeah, that one has that situated. It makes me think of Situate Harbor
Speaker 3 00:17:48 For sure. And, and when you walk by there in the evening, it's so nice cuz often there's another boat that's adjacent to this one. Usually. Yes. But it was out. But in the evening, a lot of times the lights are on inside the boat, whether they're cleaning up or I don't know what they're doing. Um, it's very alluring.
Speaker 4 00:18:04 Yeah. Then we get our floral board. We
Speaker 3 00:18:06 Do have a floral board. Well, let me just talk about this one briefly. Oh,
Speaker 4 00:18:10 Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:18:11 So this is on Monhegan Mongan. Monhegan has a little island called Manana. That's uninhabited. I'll see. I'll just leave it at uninhabited. And, um, it provides a sheltered harbor. Even though Monhegan Island in Maine is 10 miles out in the ocean, because this is here, there's a sheltered harbor where there's a village. And I, my friends that go there with me know that I have a crush on manana. I, I mean, I'm writing a book <laugh> Oh, you with all these? So I've painted it now through seagulls. Yeah. I've painted it through windows over the tops of things. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like every, so in the daytime on Monhegan, the sun comes up in the east, which is out there facing England comes over Monhegan and it lights this up. And then as the sun goes towards the west in the day, this becomes like an hourglass and shadows start appearing and they get bigger and stronger and stronger. And the light spaces get littler till they disappear. It's like a, it's, it's a beautiful, I can't, I can't take my eyes off it. I I look at it all
Speaker 4 00:19:09 Day long. Is there a lot of seagulls up
Speaker 3 00:19:11 There? There are tons of seagulls.
Speaker 4 00:19:12 Seagulls, yeah. I've never been to Mongan. I gotta get up there. It's
Speaker 3 00:19:15 A pretty cool place. So this was a girl's just want to paint. I did the theme was dissent. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I just had this image of this, you know, quacking gull. Yep. And there he is. So he's
Speaker 4 00:19:26 He's a dissenting voice. Yeah.
Speaker 3 00:19:28 He's just, he's just not with the
Speaker 4 00:19:30 Crowd. I like what you did here too with like, the outline of it. That's, you know, it has like, you, you know, I I just feel like that's like a really, like, you know, sometimes when framing things like, just like seeing that like, you know, that rough edge of paper or like that, you know, imperfect, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> aspect of it is, you know, is kind of nice.
Speaker 3 00:19:51 There's a lot that Thanks. There was a lot of, um, I loved how I designed these gulls. Sort of bring your eye through. Yeah. And to see enough of manana through there. Um, it's fun to take a lot of pictures of gulls and just all their shapes. There's a lot of people who paint Gus, Jamie Wyatt has an, had an amazing show all about gulls. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and uh, Andrew Winter was a Monhegan painter who has a lot of really cool gull paintings. Allison Hill lives there now. She paints Gulls beautifully.
Speaker 4 00:20:18 Was Wth in Monhegan.
Speaker 3 00:20:20 Yeah. The Ws. Um, is that,
Speaker 3 00:20:23 So Jamie Ws the surviving wth, right. Of the three NC Wth, Andrew Wth and Jamie. Yep. Um, he owns a house on Monhegan on the very southern tip of Monhegan. Yep. That, um, the artist, uh, okay. What's his name? You know the whales and I'll think of his name in a minute. Mm-hmm. Anyway, so he, uh, bought it from this artist whose name will come to me in a minute. So he's not there that often cuz the Wyatts, um, have their own island. Actually. They just sold their island to maybe Boden College's Marine program or something. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. They had Allen Island that was about five or six miles north. But he is on the island. I've seen him walking around and he has a house and hangs out
Speaker 4 00:21:06 And paints. And there's a lot of artists up there. A lot of people like, uh, like pilgrimage type of, uh,
Speaker 3 00:21:13 There are
Speaker 4 00:21:14 Or is that, is that my imagination? I just, just feel like everybody, I know this an art, you know, <laugh> like, you know, talks about it. I've never heard anyone talk about Mongan. That's not an artist. So,
Speaker 3 00:21:24 Well other people go there who aren't artists, but, um,
Speaker 4 00:21:29 They allow people if you're allowed to come, if you're not, yes. You
Speaker 3 00:21:31 Can come if you're just a regular human being. <laugh>. So, but it's really nice on this tiny island, which is only a mile and a half north to south and half mile east to west. You can sit and paint and you know, Winslow Homer was sitting right where you are painting.
Speaker 4 00:21:46 That's
Speaker 3 00:21:46 Okay. I mean, George Bellows was there. I mean, the people who painted there,
Speaker 4 00:21:51 You pick up on the, you feel that energy,
Speaker 3 00:21:53 You can feel it and you, and, and the light surrounds it. And it's also, um, I could go on and on, but that'll be it for another day. But the, um,
Speaker 4 00:22:00 But has like that province sound type of effect where the lighting is just different than the, than it does
Speaker 3 00:22:05 Other places. Cause it's surrounded by water. So only about 40 people live there year round. Although there is a school, there's a post office. Yep. There's a little store. Um, there's, you know, in the summer there's a few more things, but in the summer, so you're looking west at the mainland, which is there. Mm-hmm. That's how big it is. And the, so, so weather comes, you can see that it's raining 10 miles away. Yep. And you see it's coming and it comes fast sometimes. But Monhegan is a heat spot, right? Yep. And so a lot of times the weather just comes and then folds up or splits. Mm-hmm. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 00:22:40 It's amazing. Yeah. We get there. How often do you go up there?
Speaker 3 00:22:42 We split, we're there the last two weeks of July. Every year. Every year. So if you go up the last two weeks of July, we have our open table, we have the best view on the island in the house. We rent
Speaker 4 00:22:51 Off
Speaker 3 00:22:51 The You have to hike the hill to get there.
Speaker 4 00:22:53 <laugh>. I'll, I'll let you know when I, whenever you and Jen start planning another trip, I'll have to keep those
Speaker 3 00:22:58 Dates in mind. 20 years we've been going. Yeah. You just come for a few days and then you carry
Speaker 4 00:23:02 On. Yep.
Speaker 5 00:23:03 Please stay tuned for part two coming in 2023.
